Subject: SMML VOL 1259 Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 02:08:02 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: U-boat 2: Re: Squalus TV Movie 3: Re: H.M.S. Vanguard (Post WW II battleship) 4: Pearl Harbour -1st trailer 5: Re: Hipper Class a la Koop 6: Re: Will there ever be a 1/350 scale Nimitz class carrier?? 7: Re: WASP hull contours 8: Book Review 9: Pearl Harbor books/videos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: USS Belle Grove - LSD #2 Reunion Information -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: U-boat >> Does any one know if there is available resin/multimedia updates for the conning tower/bridge and weapons for the Revell U-99 Type VII-B? I have not had much luck locating good references for the deck gun and antiaircraft weapons for the type VII-B either; any leads? << Uhh, no. Not yet. Be patient, though. Now to answer the second part of the question. I have a book entiled "The Type VII U Boat" by David Westwood (Part of the Anatomy of the Ship series). It has many line drawings, both full hull and sub-assemblies, in extreme detail. It contains several superb line drawings of the conning tower and gun outfitting and placements. Would recommend this as an outstanding source on the Type VII. Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: Squalus TV Movie >> This TV movie is based on Peter Maas' "The Terrible Hours," a good book but. . . To save money this show was filmed in Malta using leftover models and sets from "U-571." If you don't mind Squalus being depicted as a Type VII U-boat then you may enjoy the show. If you're a rivet counter you'll squirm in pain. << I saw a Learning Channel special on the Squalus incident and Swede Momsen a year or so ago. For the on-the -bottom shots, they used an out-of-box build of the Revell Lionfish; didn't even bother with paint. You know, if they would just ASK, I and many others would give them a decent build of Squalus to use.... Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Paul Lewis" Subject: Re: H.M.S. Vanguard (Post WW II battleship) Michael, I too have recently purchased this kit and was disappointed by the lack of "collectors quality detail" I have purchased some of Gold Medal's watertight doors and assorted hatches although they are overscale (1:350) I will prob be using overscale handrails as well. As far as photo's go I have a book, The Big Gun, Battleship Main Armament 1860-1945, By Peter Hodges, ISBN No 0-85177-144-0. This has several good pics of Vanguard at the back of the book. Another good one is, To sail no more, Post war shipbreaking in the UK, This book is really sad as it carries pics of most of the British Navy, Battleships, Cruisers, Subs etc under the cutters torch. It also has great pics of Vanguard (with her 15" guns cut off at the turret face). If any of you guys out there has any more pictorial info on HMS Vanguard (Post W.W.II battleship) I would like to hear from you -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "D.Przezdziecki" Subject: Pearl Harbour -1st trailer At least here in the UK "Pearl Harbour" the movie is advertised as basicaly a love triangle rudely interrupted by Japanese attack. First trailer lasted about 30 seconds, the smoldering looks and stolen kisses took 28 seconds, Japanese planes were shown for 2 seconds and not a warship in sight. Makes you wonder about the mind of the genius behind the trailer. His free associations tests would probably go like this: Hiroshima - shushi, Pearl Harbour - hula dancers.... D.P -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Peter K. H. Mispelkamp Subject: Re: Hipper Class a la Koop >> You said you're doing a review on Koop's "Hipper Class". Is the darn thing worth near $50.00's ? If it's as good as the Scharnhorst class-then yes. If it's a re-hash of existing info like the "Bismark Class" - then no. Of course I have nothing in english on the "Hipper Class" so almost anything will be an improvement. << Joe: It very much like thier volumes on the Scharnhorst's and Deutschland's. Given the lack of any English works on these ships - apart from M.J. Whitley's German Cruisers of World War II", the old Profile on the Prinz Eugen, and the old Ian Allan title - it is probably worth the money. Sorry I can't go into more details, but the rights to my full review are owned by the International Journal of Maritime History since they provided me with the book. Perhaps others on this have already read it and will give you their opinions as well. Hope this helps. Sincerely Peter K. H. Mispelkamp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Ed Grune" Subject: Re: Will there ever be a 1/350 scale Nimitz class carrier?? Courtney wrote: >> Does anyone here know if something like this is either in the works at one of the major modeling companies or planned? << Probably not real soon. Don't get you hopes up. There is nothing from any of the "main-line" styrene companies about a 350 scale Nimitz-class carrier. The question has been asked of Mr. Tamiya - and he has said no - in so many words. BTW - the 1:700 scale market in Japan is very popular as is remote control cars. Tamiya's releases are for their home market first - then the rest of the world. That is why you do not see very many large scale ships coming from Tamiya, nor from Hasegawa, PitRoad or Aoshima. Don't look for something like this from Revell-Monogram either. Ship models are low on their business plan too. There has been rumblings of a resin carrier in 1:350 scale in the works from the cottage industry folks. IT WILL NOT BE CHEAP! If and when it appears be prepared to plunk down about a grand for it. IIRC it won't be a Nimitz, perhaps an early Forrestal. Ed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Mike C" Subject: Re: WASP hull contours Donald, The only less expensive way of converting the measurements is to figure out the scale difference and convert your measurements taken from specific points. The mechanical reductions may cost you, but you'll be glad in the long run that you had them made. It's good that you got the large scale plans from Floating Drydock because it gives you information on the port side. The thing to remember is that the waterline is symmetrical even if everything above it is not. Most of the starboard side is vertical from the waterline up, but the centerline of the hangar deck is offset to port from the centerline of the hull at the waterline. This results in a flare in the hull on the port side up to the hangar deck. It also means that the supports for the port and starboard 5" gun platforms are not mirror images of each other. The fillets and plating on the stern flare at different angles and the curves to the edge of the forecastle deck are different for both sides. There is also a knuckle on the port side only at the hangar deck level, parallel to the waterline, that extends forward of the 5" guns. You've got your work cut out for yourself. Trust me on this one. Mike C -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Book Review Hi All I just thought I'd share my thoughts on the new Marines Editions book on the Bourrasque class destroyers. Firstly you have to be able to read French or at least know a few French technical terms. The author has done a great amount of research hampered by the fact that only about 30% of French naval records from that period actually survive. He covers the complicated history of French DT markings and units before and during the war with considerable skill and explains the changes clearly and well. Design and modifications are also well covered and lucidly dealt with as are the flaws of these destroyers. What I also liked was the sections on ship painting - these destroyers did not carry many different colour schemes and so these can be integrated into the text. The photo selection is excellent with many interesting views and several good action shots as well. As built drawings are also included. Errors that I could spot were extremely minor (for example, the Admiralty Yacht Enchantress is mis-labelled as the Royal Yacht) and once again point to the impressive level of research and effort that has gone into this work. This is an excellent book and essential if you're interested in these particular ships. I was also pleased to note that the later L'Adroits will be covered in a second book which I can't wait for. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Schiefet@cs.com Subject: Pearl Harbor books/videos >> Are there more, and other titled PEAR HARBOR books out there or coming out??? << Ray, I was in Barns & Noble Friday and they had two tables set up with books and videos on PH, including the book you mentioned. There were numerous reissued titles and a few new ones including a Time/Life picture book, several "personal account" books, and a History Channel commemorative set which included a video (or CD) and a picture book ($55.95) to name a few. Should be some good selections available this year. This particular store had an employee stationed near the display who was about 5 years old when PH was attacked. She was chatting up her remembrances of that day and the war, clever marketing. For an interesting read, check out the cv6.org web page. Jack Leaming wrote his personal story titled 6-S-7. As the tail gunner radio mane in 6-S-7, he arrived over PH during the attack. He took part in the early raids (his description of the flack was very vivid) before being shot down and spending 3 years as a POW. His self-produced book is a cheap read at $7 or 8. Attached a re a couple of links to PH related movie and video information. I have no financial interest in these, I am only passing them along. Go to "moviemix.com" and go from there. Here is a National Geographic link on Pearl Harbor. http://www.nationalgeographic.com/pearlharbor/ Regards from New Hampshire, Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Janet Maudlin" Subject: USS Belle Grove - LSD #2 Reunion Information Hello to all: USS Belle Grove - LSD #2 Navy reunion- July 8-15,2001 Omaha, Nebraska Holiday Inn Central 3321 South 72nd Stree Omaha, NE 68124 Phone: 402-393-3950 Call hotel for reservations Host/Hostess: Lester and Janet Maudlin 4480 Oakcreek Drive Norwalk, Iowa 50211 For Reservations: Ph: 515 285-7210 Email: jmaudlin@msn.com Room rates: July 8th-10th $65.00 July 11-14th $85.00 Tours planned from Tuesday through Friday evening. 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