Subject: SMML VOL 1304 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:40:30 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Revell Yorktown (CV-5) 2: Re: Great Lakes NTC 3: Museums 4: Delphis / Regia Marina 5: Re: Resin Manufacturers 6: Re: resizing plans 7: Resizing Plans 8: Re: K19 9: Thank you 10: All Hands - Magazine of the U.S. Navy 11: Re: Locks at Sault Ste. Marie 12: Re: Naval Training Ct 13: U.S. Boat & Ship Modeler 14: Re: Anatomy of Ship -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation 1: Mini site update -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Michael C. Smith" Subject: Revell Yorktown (CV-5) Has anyone ever done an accurized version of the 1/540 (?) scale Revell Yorktown/Hornet. I built it as the old "Battle of Midway" carrier 25 years ago, and always liked the kit. Mainly then because it had 20 SBDs that came with it. Now because the hull appears to be accurate, and flight deck is the most accurate representation of a WW II carrier deck before you get into photoetch and resin kits. I know there is a GMM photoetch for it, and someone (Nautilus) did some resin parts for a Yorktown, but I was wondering if anyone had actually built this with the new parts, or otherwise had an opinion as to what it needed. It looked to me like a new gallery deck was the biggest need. Michael Smith Marshall, Texas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Jim Johnson" Subject: Re: Great Lakes NTC Great Lakes is many things. Most people know it as the Navy boot camp. I went to boot camp there. It also has a service school command. I went to Machinist Mates "A" school there. There is also a supply command there plus several other commands. I never saw a museum there but the web site lists one that opened in 1997. Here is the URL: http://www.ntcgl.navy.mil/museum.htm There are also some e-mail addresses for questions. HTH Jim Johnson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Museums Keith Bender wrote - >> Answer to "is there a museum at the naval training area at Chicago". I went to boot camp there in Oct. 1979 and I didn't see any museum there. I'm the kind of guy why would have found one if there was one but on the other hand we really didn't have much time at all to do anything like that. << I stayed near NTC Great Lakes in 1998 or 1999 while attending a model show in Chicago. The gate guard told us there was a museum there but it happened to be closed for renovations that week. On the subject of naval museums, the Washington Navy Yard Museum has (at long last) allegedly reopened the front half of the building, with the rest to follow later this summer. Mike Alexandria, VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Donald Bridge Subject: Delphis / Regia Marina Is there a Delphis or Regia Marina website or any other site with pictures of the models / box art. Don Bridge -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "William Oreto" Subject: Re: Resin Manufacturers I think the resin manufacturers are great. They have their peaks and valleys like every other manufacturer of goods. They shouldn't be hounded unfairly but they shouldn't be placed above criticism either. One great point of working with resin kits is that I can call the manufacturer on the phone to resolve a problem or ask a question. Or I can place a posting. 10 years ago most of my 1/700 scale collection was mold injected, no resin kits at all. Now my resin kits outnumber my mold injected kits. I don't know how they go about selecting their subjects but it will be interesting to see Regia Marina sales of its North Carolina and South Dakota kits next year will be, especially since these subjects are represented by mold injection companies. My opinion, is that RM's strategy and kits would represent an evolutionary turning point in our hobby (as was the creation and sale of Photo-Etch). A maturing (I'm struggling for the proper word) so to speak of our hobby. I wonder if the mold injected companies see this evolution. New resin kits that are researched, manufactured and sold in months as opposed to years for mold injected. We may not be the step-children of the mold injected industry for much longer for they may stop producing ship kits. Didn't one company already drop manufacturing ship models? Just thinking out loud. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Re: resizing plans >> I have a set of plans in 1/192. I need them rescaled to 1/700 or 1/720. I confidently calculated the percentage reduction needed, since that's what the copier place needed, and handing the plans over. They made beautifully clear copies, well scale, but the BL**DY WRONG SIZE! << I make 1/700 top be a reduction to 27.43% of original and 1/720 to be 26.66% of original size I would draw an accurate 10 foot (or other convenient length line on the plans and then recheck in the new scale. They can also do that for you. Regards, Bradford Chaucer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Art Herrick" Subject: Resizing Plans From: "Poutre, Joseph A" >> I have a set of plans in 1/192. I need them rescaled to 1/700 or 1/720. I confidently calculated the percentage reduction needed, since that's what the copier place needed, and handing the plans over << Joseph, May I make a suggestion: On the bottom boarder of the original drawing, draw a line the overall length of the subject hull. Calculate the overall length of the subject hull at the scale you wish the drawing reduced to, and put down this dimension on the line you have drawn at the bottom of the original drawing. Leave the calculation of the reduction of the original drawing to the copy shop. My copy shop does the calculation on their own hand held computer, so it is their responsibility. Before you accept the reduced drawing, measure the reference line you had drawn on the original, to see that it is the correct reduced dimension. If it is not, it is the copy shops responsibility to redue the reduction. If you want to see if there is any vertical distortion in the drawing reduction process, put a vertical dimensioned reference line on one side of the drawing. This is useful when using a copy shop for the first time. Some copy machines have been known to distort drawings. This works for me time after time. Leave the resizing math to the copy shop. If they insist you do the resizing math ... find another copy shop. By the way ... I use a professional copy shop that services the local architects and engineering offices. Hope this is helpful. Art Herrick Westmoreland NH Member: Nautical Research Guild USS CONSTITUTION Model Shipwright Guild Yangtze River Patrol Assoc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Craig R Bennett Subject: Re: K19 Hi Guys The news about this movie K-19 got me interested as to it might be about. I learned this. K-19 is a Hotel class sub or Project 658. Built in 1960 she has the nickname Hiroshima. In 1961 she suffered a reactor breakdown that killed 10 men. The sub had to be towed back to port. Then in 1969 she collided with US sub Gato. I don't know if the collision caused the sub to sink at this accident or the next accident in 1972 when 29 men died. My source is Conways fighting ships 1947-95. So somewhere in there is the movie's story. Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Bill Gruner Subject: Thank you Hello Shane, and SMML subscribers, Many thanks for your kind thoughts regarding my father. He had a stroke last week, and is not doing too well (he can't walk or do much of anything, very tough for him as at 88 he still very outgoing and energetic), but is going through rehab right now, so we are praying that by the Lord's grace he will make a full recovery. I apologize for my late replies to your e-mails, and mail orders. We have been extremely busy, but will make every effort to get caught up(!!??). Michal Samek of Samek Models was kind enough to send me JPEG images of the his new Texas and Kursk, so I thought you would enjoy seeing the box art images if you haven't already. Best regards, Bill Gruner Pacific Front Hobbies Hi all, We wish "Bud" Gruner all the best & hope for a full recovery. The box art pictures will be posted in the next update. Shane & Lorna -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject: All Hands - Magazine of the U.S. Navy http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/allhands/ah-top.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Doug Wilde" Subject: Re: Locks at Sault Ste. Marie Bruce Burden said in #1298: >> I'll be in Chicago, by way of Sault Ste. Marie, MI. I always wanted to explore the locks from ground level, and "Engineer Day" will allow me do to exactly that. << I picked up an interesting book on a recently completed swing through Michigan and Ohio (in search of info on the elusive Wolverine and Sable). Iron Fleet: The Great Lakes in World War II by George J. Joachim published by Wayne State University Press of Detroit, 386'244'097709044-dc20 A slim volume of ca 100 pages, not counting appendix. Photos in the middle including one captioned "The first aerial photograph of the Soo Locks taken after wartime restrictions were lifted." Each chapter has a quote at the beginning. I like the one for chapter 5: The Manpower Crisis. From a classified advertisement in 1942: "WANTED--Registered druggist; young or old, deaf or dumb. Must have license and walk without crutches." The Great Lakes during WWII is a vast, largely untouched subject. The amount of naval shipbuilding that went on was staggering. Another interesting book is Freshwater Whales: A History of The American Ship Building Company and Its Predecessors by Richard J. Wright The chapter "Gumbo Mud and Yankee Ingenuity" covers the war years. I don't know why but our library at the University of Arkansas has a copy! The American Ship Building Company built mine sweepers, net tenders, corvettes as well as the conversion of Seeandbee to USS Wolverine and Greater Buffalo to USS Sable. Doug Wilde -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Doug Wilde" Subject: Re: Naval Training Ct They don't have the information you are looking for. I've corresponded and came up empty handed. All their material was turned over the the National Archives. I can't put my hands on the letter right now but I also seem to recall I wrote to the NA folks at Chicago (sorry, no e-mailed requests answered) and they also were unable to help. We must look elsewhere for records, drawings, and photographs. Doug Wilde -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Doug Wilde" Subject: U.S. Boat & Ship Modeler Can anyone provide more information on this publication? How long was it published? By whom? I am looking for a complete copy of an article that appeared in the Summer 1992 issue. There was a build article on the USS Wolverine model that is floating about Chicago. I have a photocopy of page 37 and 61. But there is at least one page before 37 and also a page 60. Although I did not behold the 1:72 model itself, I did see some professionally shot color photographs of it. Its an interesting diorama, full hull in water with a CG chase boat. On deck (or about to land) are models of all aircraft that were used for CQ. Doug Wilde -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: DrT388@aol.com Subject: Re: Anatomy of Ship Hello, Remember seeing a recent posting about The 100 Gun Ship Victory book. Indicated one could purchase it from a company in Germany, I think. Also noticed it is at Barnes and Noble for $31.96 plus shipping, ships within 24 hours. This looks to be the cheapest price I have seen on it, for anyone interested in building this beautiful ship of the line. This is an excellant source of information. Best Regards, David Turner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Shane Subject: Mini site update Hi all, I've updated the archives to 1303. This will cover any missing issues that got caught up in the hassles caused by my mail server playing up over the past few days. Go to: http://smmlonline.com Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume