Subject: SMML VOL 1314 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 03:27:43 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Advice sought 2: Plans restoration 3: COMMANDER ROGER HILL RN - OBIT MAY 2001 4: Re: cartoons 5: "unneeded purchases"??? 6: Re: USS Alaska 7: Atlantic Star & red paint 8: Re: Advice sought 9: Roger Hill 10: Re: My Falkland Warriors -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation 1: FOTS SMMLcon 2: IPMS SMML meeting 3: Some SMML meeting notes from Chicago -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Notice from W R PRESS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Advice sought D. P., I would suggest you redraw the bad parts the old fashion way, with an ink pen on the original drawings. Draw right over the faded lines to restore them. Then take those drawings to an architectural reproduction facility and make new copies. I have restored many drawings this way. Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Ron Hillsden" Subject: Plans restoration AutoDesk, the BIG CAD publisher, makes a couple of 'light' products. One is Autosketch, which sells for around $100. It is basically a CAD program, but will import .bmp format which you can treat as a background layer and trace. It exports most vector cad formats. It has both windows and AutoDesk interfaces, so you don't have to learn CAD to use it. Having said that, there are a couple of free CAD programs around people regard well. I haven't tried them, but I can recommend Autosketch. Ron Hillsden Victoria BC Canada Flags: http://members.home.net/ron-hillsden/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "NICK & JOY ROGERS" Subject: COMMANDER ROGER HILL RN - OBIT MAY 2001 Hi All, Sadly Commander Roger Hill,R.N. ,DSO,DSC died in May 2001 aged 90 years. His obituary from The Dominion newspaper website can be found as follows, http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,799244a1932,FF.html He had been living in Arrowtown,near Lake Wakatipu(and Queenstown) in the South Island of New Zealand. He had come to NZ in the mid-1960's to work in the port town of Nelson. He got involved with sea again for a company with a fleet of fishing trawlers. He also served on the Nelson Harbour Board for 4 terms during a time of big re-developments of Port Nelson. I have a copy of his excellent book DESTROYER CAPTAIN,published by William Kimber & Co. Ltd., London in 1975. ISBN 0 7183 0094 7.Read if you can. It is a gritty thrilling account of his command of HM destroyers Ledbury, Grenville and Jervis in the period 1942-1945. He joined the Royal Navy in 1928. Served on HMS Erebus(15" gun monitor) & battlecruisers HMS Renown and HMS Hood. Also battleship HMS Resolution,cruisers HMS Caradoc and HMS Penelope and the destroyer HMS Electra. Also found time to be on the (coal fired!!) Submarine Depot Ship Alecto, an old fishing trawler (towing a submarine as a U-boat decoy ??) and finally as First Lieutenant on the sloop HMS Enchantress. He got his first command of the new Hunt class destroyer HMS Ledbury just after learning that his 21 brother had been lost on HMS Barham.(25 November 1941) Regards, Nick Rogers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Ken Goldman" Subject: Re: cartoons >> gunshield artwork (cartoon. . . harrumph) << >> If "cartoon" is good enough for Peter Elliott (his landmark "Allied Escort Ships Of WWII" is a well-worn bookshelf friend), cartoon is good enough for me. Hank Ketchum, Charles Schulz, Berkeley Breathed and John Cullen Murphy would give you a good show in any art gallery featuring their cartoons. << To Victor's post, let me add that Michelangelo Buonaroti's full-size drawings for the Sistine Chapel ceiling are also correctly called "cartoons." Ken Goldman THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER unique wood sculpture and fine scale models www.walruscarpenter.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Ken Goldman" Subject: "unneeded purchases"??? The SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA LIVING section of this past Friday's LOS ANGELES TIMES carries a story about "The Shopaholic Defense." The article by Booth Moore begins, "Whether it's Manolo Blahniks [designer shoes] or model ships, [bolding is mine] bingeing on unneeded purchases only to regret them when the bills arrive is fast becoming a national pastime. But now, thanks to a novel federal ruling, there appears to be a medical justification for compulsive shopping good enough to stand up in court." The medical defense was used by a woman to justify her embezzling $250,000 from her employer to finance shopping sprees that were her method of coping with clinical depression. In other words, shopping was her drug of choice. She actually got off with restitution and probation. So, next time a spouse gives you a hard time over that new Flower corvette or Arizona just chalk it up to that irresistible urge, or maybe the devil made you do it, and the courts will back you up. Ken Goldman THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER unique wood sculpture and fine scale models www.walruscarpenter.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Keith Bender" Subject: Re: USS Alaska Hi SMMLies, Thank you for your kind compliments on my USS Alaska. The medal that I have mounted on the display base is not from a contest of sort but a "Pacific Campaign" medal I picked up from an uncle. Sometimes I display a medal, ribbons or even an officers shoulder board in a case depending on the case size. This adds a little extra military touch to the overall display. These items can be found at the Army & Navy stores. Keith -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Darshan Ward" Subject: Atlantic Star & red paint First off, I must welcome myself back to the list after an extended computer related abscence; damn I missed you guys. Two non-related questions to kick off with, If anybody has any info would be much appreciated. The little Heller kit of the Atlantic Star recently came my way. I must confess to a certain fondness for the earliest of the steam powered vessels. Typically these days and much to my chagrin, the kit contained absolutely no vessel information whatsoever. Some research time in my own bookshelves turned up nothing either. Seems to be a Great Western lookalike, Britsh built paddle steamer circa 1840. Anybody?? My other query relates to red paint. The Royal Navy since time immemorial has a traditional fondess for painting gun decks bright red. [Why??!!} Even very recently the inside of 'Cavalier's' gun shields and entire breech and training mechanism was { and is} bright red. With particular referance to WEM's excellent 'Chester', and the non turreted i.e. shielded 6in armament. The gun breeches are an obvious detail but how much of it needs to be red if any. Does any body know this kind of stuff? Dave Ward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Timothy Dike Subject: Re: Advice sought >> Does anybody know about a program which can be helpfull in my restoration plans and would not require to sell any of my vital body parts in order to buy it??? << You could pick up a copy of AutoCAD LT at most computer software stores. It is a vector based drafting program that is not all that easy to learn, but is by far one of the most versatile one. In addition there are a multitude of classes available for you to take to learn it. Lots of Community Colleges use AutoCAD as it is the industry standard. It can be had for a few pints of blood (given every three weeks over the course of a year!). Timothy Dike Webmaster and Editor ModelWarships.com http://www.modelwarships.com/index1.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Chris Drage" Subject: Roger Hill Hi All, >> Roger Hill ........died very recently (I believe) I remember reading his obituary in the local newspaper (Wellingon Dominion) just a couple of weeks ago. << Sad to read this. Some years ago Channel 4 produced a a documentary entitled CONVOY all about the Pedestal Operation. Roger Hill and Ledbury performed miracles during this epic. He is interviewed and speaks of why he took Ledbury right into the flames of the burning sea around one of the sinking merchant ships to pick up surviviors. Admitting it was foolhardy in the extreme, he states that he felt so guilty for what happened just a month or too earlier when his escort had been ordered to abandon convoy PQ17 that this made him resolute to never abandon any merchantmen again. Similarly, his resolve not to abandon the Ohio during her plight later in the pedestral operation. It is so typical of the man - an unsung hero if ever there was one. Incidentally, the TV documentary shows a paintiing that was made depicting Ledbury entering the 'inferno'. Doesn't give any references....! Regards Chris He tao rakau e taea te karo kupu kaore e taea te karo (Te reo Maori) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Harold Stockton" Subject: Re: My Falkland Warriors My congrats on the completion to Johnny Chen for contributing photographs of his completed work on his Falkland Warriors. The Falkland conflict has always been of special interest to me as there was so much photographic evidence of the event. When, and if, I ever get around to actually starting my depiction of this event, I wanted to use the Airfix kits in 1/600 to do a diorama of San Carlos Sound with Argentinean aircraft screaming over a section of the fleet, with bomb splashes near one of the Type 21 Frigates, at least one or two Sea Cat launches in progress, and maybe a Sea Harrier on the tail of some offending attacker. Oh well, maybe someone out there will beat me to it and finish there project for me to admire. Again, good modeling Johnny. Harold Stockton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Shane Subject: FOTS SMMLcon Hi all, Well the Festival of the Sea at Portsmouth is getting closer, so I suppose we'd better start finding out what's happening for this rather informal SMMLcon. Who is planning to attend? Most importantly, which pub are we all going to take over for some scintillating discourse over a few drinks. It has to have some good strong posts to prop people up after roaming all over Portsmouth and serve good rum and scotch. Regards, Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Kurt Van Dahm Subject: IPMS SMML meeting Ahoy: Well, the SMML members attending the IPMS Nat's got together today (Sat.) at noon for a very pleasant informal meeting. We all introduced ourselves and told what we were working on or at and then discussed some future plans for teaching and learning opportunities for the group. It was suggested we try to have a ship modeling tech session in conjunction with each future IPMS Nat's. It was then suggested we might better team up with a group with more emphasis on ships (which is entirely lacking with IPMS) At this point the Nautical Research Guild (NRG) was brought up as a logical group for us to consider as they meet annually usually in a port city or area and everybody attending is in some manner either a ship modeler or a researcher. There is no competition from airplane or armor modelers. I know that many people have the impression that the NRG is against plastic modelers and non sailing ship modelers, but as a long time NRG member let me assure you that this is not a true picture of the NRG. I personally do not build sailing ship models. I build tugs, towboats and the like. I use a lot of plastic and have converted several other NRG modelers to using plastic as appropriate, something they never considered before. But, the point is the NRG accepts anybody interested in ship modeling, regardless of the type of ship and the materials. SMML member Don Preul is a speaker at this year's conf. and you can be sure he's not talking about wooden sailing ships! The venue for their annual conferences is this year in suburban Washington, DC the first weekend in October. Next year in Philadelphia and 2003 here in Chicago. All about the same time of year. Look up their web site at www.Naut-Res-Guild.org to see what they offer. The get together and discussions there were very interesting and I was glad to finally be able to put faces to some of the names from the list. The ship models ranged in quality from a few pieces of very poorly made models which were obviously first attempts to superbly done masterpieces. The vast majority of the ship models were outstanding with very good workmanship and great subjects. Have no idea of who the winners were (they are probably wrapping up the awards banquet as I write this) but I have some good ideas of which ones should be the winners. Will wait to see if the judges agree with me. I know other SMML members will be writing up their impressions of the IPMS Nat's and the SMML meeting. Take care, Kurt Van Dahm Westmont, IL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Timothy Dike Subject: Some SMML meeting notes from Chicago First of all it was great to meet some of you SMML'ies. It's always nice to be able to put a face with a name. There was some talk about the next SMML Con, and some idea's were floated around, but since we were a mere fraction of the membership it is best to use this forum to settle those issues. So I'll throw that out there now: Where should the next Smelly-Con be held? (See above: Shane) Hugh Letterly of Copar mentioned a Ship builders Camp around August 10-12 in Denver, Colorado. I'll leave it to Hugh to give the details, but hope some of us Ship Modelers can attend. Kurt Van Dalm mentioned a St. Louis Admirals regatta that it would be good to hold in conjunction with a SMML con, as well as some Chicago shows coming up. Jump in anytime Kurt. There was some discussion of encouraging new membership from the younger modelers similar to the IPMS make-and-take programs. Something that a lot of you mentioned was ways to improve our own skills by demonstrating techniques and sharing knowledge. Those of you that had to leave early missed a new tip (literally) that Darren Scannel showed us. He takes a short piece of tubing (RC aircraft control rod tubing) and stretches it like sprue to form a neat little applicator tip that should help us to NOT glue our fingers together (at least as much). Hey that should spur some discussion, lets hear from you all. 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