Subject: SMML VOL 1394 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 00:41:38 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Dido 2: Re: New Camouflage Book 3: Re: Subchasers of World War II 4: Hobby Shops in Tampa/St. Pete 5: R/C Gato Class 6: Re: New Camouflage Book and WWI colours 7: Help finding Heller Kit 8: Re: ICM Ship news 9: Re: SMML Travel Warning 10: WW 1 Submarine Chasers.. 11: Re: ICM Ship news -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: For Sale 2: Market Survey 3: Book & Kits for Sale -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Chris & Lulu Langtree" Subject: Dido Hi Art Is this the inclined ladder from the top of the deckhouse to the searchlight platform on the rear funnel? If so yes Dido had it. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Chris & Lulu Langtree" Subject: Re: New Camouflage Book Hi Gene I'll be posting a full review of the book in the next two to three days once I've finished reading it. Initial impressions are that this is a stunning tour de force. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Diodor@aol.com Subject: Re: Subchasers of World War II I write these lines primarily for Messrs B & B (Baca & Browne): You lovers of WWI subchasers have every right to your sentimental attachment for those workhorses known as the "Cinderellas of the Fleet." Not too many people are aware that they participated in the only bona fide sea battle using U.S.navy ships in that war.Their hull lines (minus those tugboaty pilot houses) were indeed graceful. Old black and white pictures of WWI subchasers steaming in formation evoke a spirit of romanticism that never dies. The glamorization of these doughty little vessels has been encouraged by the appearance of more than one kit as the years have passed, until they seem like veritable Model T's of the modeller's navy. Which leads me to the perennial question: When will the second generation of subchasers--the World War II SCs--also be given their hard-earned place on the model-makers' pedestal, so long overdue, yet so richly deserved? When will someone come up with a real kit for these equally doughty and plucky ships? They had a much more difficult time than their predecessors and saw ten times the action. As control vessels, gunboats and shallow-water minesweepers they fought dive bombers, Kamikazes and mortar fire, spilling blood and guts aplenty in all theaters of WWII. If you don't believe it ask any WWII SC sailor who was at Anzio, Normandy, Biak, Guam, Arawe, Cape Gloucester, Hollandia, Eniwetok, Leyte, Iwo Jima, Okinawa...on and on ad infinitum...It's time for the subchaser modelling world to update its subchaser models and give the SC 497 class subchaser her place in the sun. Though I still doff my cap to Messrs B & B for their long-standing loyalty to a worthy cause. Ted Treadwell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "maeisen@erols.com" Subject: Hobby Shops in Tampa/St. Pete Folks: Thanks so much to all who responded to my query about hobby shops in Tampa/St. Pete area. Best wishes, Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Dave Shirlaw Subject: R/C Gato Class The Submarine Store has the following: http://www.submarinestore.com/models-rc.htm Dive into great submarine action with the new USS Bluefish radio controlled submarine! This is a 33" long operational replica of a WW2 Gato class submarine with a 4.25" beam. Your model runs under water, dives and surfaces just like the real thing. This kit is a beauty! Its quality features include: · vacuum formed hull, deck, motor mounts and sail; · brass pushrods and hatch hooks; · cast metal anchor and dive plane control arm; · and mylar decals. The running hardware set is included and comes complete with two 4.8 volt electric motors, stuffing boxes, coupling rods, shafts, and propellers. Free-flooding forward and rear compartments let water in to add extra weight required to dive the boat. Maximum diving depth four feet, running time 30 minutes or more. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Lars Scharff" Subject: Re: New Camouflage Book and WWI colours Hi Gene, I bought this book. It's about camouflage in WWI and WWII, the photos of the WWI-part are mostly new to me and of US and British ships. Their are some warships, e.g. HMS Dublin in experimental camouflage scheme and many liners and frighters. The 1917-18 schemes dominate this section and their only few examples of ships with multi colour schemes, which were not used in convoys. I know many of the WWII photos, at least those of cruisers, which are my main interest. There are one big chapter about British camouflage, another about US schemes, smaller ones about German, French, Russian, Polish, Italian, Japanse and one photo of Yavuz (ex Goeben) in disruptive camouflage. There are a chapter about the colours, again mostly British (with Humbrol references) and US. The only reason, why I bought the book are the WWI photos. Some of these I want to build: HMS Royalist (1915, starboard side view), HMS Dublin (early war), HMS Fearless (ca. 1918), HMS Adventure (ca. 1918), HMS Amphitrite (ca. 1917, famous photo), USS Anniston (ex Montgomery). Does someone has informations about this ships (drawings, other photos, guess about the colours)? Has someone informations about the colours of the US Watson/Norfolk disruptive schemes 3 and 4 ? The author describes them as "vivid, dark, highly-saturated colours" and "that they were stark and unsymphathetic in that they did not naturally blend into marine environment." Ships wearing these are e.g. Anniston and Nebraska. They look like some bad tast sofa pattern or circus decoration. Regards Lars -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Rod Millard" Subject: Help finding Heller Kit I need help finding a Heller kit called Conquistador. For the Grey ship builders this is a sailing ship produced in the seventies. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Rod Millard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: SolidStump@aol.com Subject: Re: ICM Ship news >> Those familiar with the Hood / Essex release date saga will probably find this plausible. Those planning to take advantage of special offer pre-order discounts may want to invest the money in long term savings account instead and dig in for the wait (!!) << James, Hobbyland has a pre-order. There is no "investment". Your card is not charged until the merchandise is shipped to you. But your order tells ICM to get off it's butt. Simon (ordered two) Scheuer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: Re: SMML Travel Warning The English did not win and hold a world empire by taking notice of travel warnings. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject: WW 1 Submarine Chasers.. To Chuck Duggie MINADMIRAL Well, you brought this guppie to the top of the tank. Yeah, the USCG was never really in the race, with their 18 knot boats against the speedy lobster boats. The CG were not supposed to fire at the "enemy", either. A shot across the bows, maybe, but if they didn't stop, the CG couldn't shoot-to-kill. Yankee magazine ran an article about a year or so about one CG boat that raked a rumrunner with machine gun fire with deadly results. All Hell broke loose as a consequence, and it didn't happen again. What scale do you need for a drawing of the S/C for your diorama? Franklyn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: AAA Hobby Subject: Re: ICM Ship news >> Those familiar with the Hood / Essex release date saga will probably find this plausible. Those planning to take advantage of special offer pre-order discounts may want to invest the money in long term savings account instead and dig in for the wait (!!) << Sure, take out a $100 2-year CD and when it matures it'll pay for the Essex kit! A 1-year CD should do for the less expensive Hood kits. On the topic of the pre-order. I still intend on honoring the offer I made, if the kits ever come out and if the price stays the same. James -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Harold Stockton" Subject: For Sale Contrail 1/72 Short Seamew. Vacuform kit with injection molded landing gear, white metal prop, decals for two aircraft (XE169 and XE173), scale line drawings, instructions, and a large fold out sheet of photographs. I think this is the only known kit of this truly "ugly" FAA A/S aircraft, even more so than a Fairey Gannet. Price: $25, plus $3.50 postage by Priority Mail. Harold Stockton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: John Snyder Subject: Market Survey One of the longest-selling Revell kits--virtually never out of production in its 40-year run--has been the 1/72 Elco 80' PT, variously released as PT-109 and PT-117. I've felt for some time that there is great potential for doing aftermarket armament parts for this kit, given how widely the PTs varied. Such parts could include a 40mm Bofors single mount (with suitable PE), 37mm Oldsmobile cannon (again, with suitable PE), 20mm Oerlikon (with PE), single and twin Browning .50 Cal. mounts, late war roll-off torpedo racks and torpedoes (PE propellers for the torpedoes?), depth charges with roll-off racks, and rocket launchers. I've discussed this with Dave and Caroline, and it's definitely something that WEM could do--if the market is there. The kit doesn't sell much here in the UK, so we need to assess the rest-of-the-world market. Drop me a line off-list, please, and let me know your thoughts. Best, John Snyder White Ensign Models -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Sanartjam@aol.com Subject: Book & Kits for Sale Hi SMML, I have the following for sale: 1) "Allied Coastal Forces of World War II" by John Lambert & Al Ross, published by Conway in 1990. Book and dust jacket are in very good condition. If interested, contact me offline to discuss price. 2) White Ensign 1/700 heavy cruiser Sussex. US$69 plus shipping and insurance. 3) Loose Cannon 1/700 Tacoma class patrol frigates (two kits in one box). US$45 plus shipping and insurance. Thanks! 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