Subject: SMML VOL 1402 Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 02:16:34 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Figures 2: Re: Ironclad group 3: Giant vessel shuts the Bosphorus 4: Re: 3" 23 cal - "Sand Pebbles" 5: Re: British Warships of the Second World War 6: Adjusting lifespan to complete all projects 7: Re: Tacoma/River class frigates 8: Re: Crew 9: Re: Snowberry Gunshield Decal 10: Re: 3"/23 Poole gun 11: French Navy Books 12: To Buy Or Not To Buy 13: Re: Crew Figures 14: Sand Pebbles 15: Re: Roberts' British Warships 16: Acryl II Marine Colors 17: Re: Crew 18: BWN Hornet critique -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: New Australian Mail Order option for ship modellers 2: International Maritime Modeling October/November 2001 Update -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Chris & Lulu Langtree" Subject: Figures Hi Hans Try the Preiser OO/HO model railway range. This is enormous and will probably give you what you want. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Re: Ironclad group >> I don't know of an ironclad group on Yahoo. Do you have more infromation on that group? I would be interested in joining, and I think there are more SMMLies who would be interested. << I have been a member. It is more directed to wargamers than modeling, with very little info of use to anyone wanting to model in any size larger than wargame pieces. Regards, Bradford Chaucer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject: Giant vessel shuts the Bosphorus http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_1632000/1632156.stm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Peter Webster Subject: Re: 3" 23 cal - "Sand Pebbles" Good question, I never thought beyond the idea that the gun before the bridge was a 6 Pounder RF gun - the point being the close ups were fleeting and the overall size seemed to suggest it. Therefore, I would also like to know if it was a 6 Pounder (or as stamped on some of the the brass casings, 2.24") or a 3" 23 cal gun. Peter Sydney, Oz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "J. London" Subject: Re: British Warships of the Second World War Firstly be aware that this is a compendium of shipbuilders' drawings complete with all the fold lines, stains and other imperfections found in papers that are now well over fifty years old. The drawings are photo reproductions and are not always that easy to read. There are, however, magnificently detailed examples in fairly good shape of cruisers MANCHESTER and NAIAD. The only other cruiser examples are KENT (as-fitted profile 1928 and deck plans 1938), AJAX (sketches of rig) DELHI (profile 1942) and CAIRO (rig 1939). In addition to the cruiser drawings are battleships LION (design profile 1938), NELSON (profile and deck plans 1927-28 - difficult to read), KING GEORGE V (profile and deck plans 1941 - good), and WARSPITE 1937 (profile and deck plans - fair); battlecruiser RENOWN (profile only 1939); aircraft carriers ARK ROYAL (profile, plans and sections 1939 - fair to good) and INDEFATIGABLE (profile and plan 1945 - good); destroyers GLOWWORM (profile and plan 1936 - good), ESKIMO (profile and plan 1939 - good), and SAVAGE (profile and plan 1944 - good); escorts STARLING (profile and plan 1943 - good), BELVOIR (profile and plan 1942 - good), BRYONY (profile and plan 1942 - fair), SWALE (profile and plan 1943 - poor) and WINCHESTER (profile and plan 1940 - good); escort carrier ATTACKER (profile and plan - poor); submarines OSIRIS (profile and plan 1929 - poor) and THUNDERBOLT (profile and plan 1941 - fair); minelayer LATONA (profile only 1941 - good); minesweeper ALARM (profile and plan 1942 - poor); monitor ROBERTS (profile and plan 1942 - good); amphibious warfare vessels BRUISER (rigging plan 1943 - poor) and PRINCE DAVID (profile and plan 1944 - poor); trawler ISLE Class (profile and partial plan 1939 - poor); depot ship ADAMANT (profile only 1942 - fair); MTB 31-40 (profile and plan 1940 - good); auxilliary AA ship PRINCE ROBERT (longtitudinal section 1945 - poor). Note that my comments, good, fair and poor, refer to readability only. Michael London -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: BSteinIPMS@aol.com Subject: Adjusting lifespan to complete all projects >> Doesn't stop me from collecting them, but I will need to prove a lot of actuaries wrong by living well beyond the average in order to get them finished. I can still convince myself that I am a modeller and not a collector because I always open the boxes and only buy subjects I would like to build, not those which are just rare (and sometimes terrible models). << Robert: Perhaps I can offer a suggestion. Faced with a similar dilemma of having so many future projects stored in my closet that I despaired of ever finishing them all, I hit upon a solution. I simply went on the Internet (http://www.liveforever.com) and adjusted my life expectancy to 175 years. (grin) Bob Steinbrunn Minneapolis Member, Nautical Research Guild Tin Can Sailors IPMS/USA #3345 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Poutre, Joseph A" Subject: Re: Tacoma/River class frigates >> I'm looking for a model in 1/700 of the Tacoma/River class frigates. Can anyone help? Does exist in the market a resin or plastic model of these ships? << Loose Cannon currently makes a Tacoma, two to a box. You can find their contact information at: http://www.steelnavy.com/Loosecannon.htm Also, Japanese company called Sealine makes a resin model, but as modified for Japanese service post-WWII. I used it to make the USS Bayonne, PF-21, and backdating it wasn't difficult. However, you need a Skywave E-6 and/or an E-9 set for the weapons, deck furniture and other small details. I bought mine from Pacific Front. Joe Poutre -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "D.Przezdziecki" Subject: Re: Crew Crew should not be a problem H.J. if you are prepared to do some conversion work, there is quite a large choice of 1/87 scale figures made by Preiser. They specjalise in minature railways but they also produce accesories and quite a lot of sets of 1/87 scale plastic figures of people and animals for use with train dioramas. If you know about any local miniature railway shop near you just step in and ask for the Preiser Catalogue. Good Luck D.P -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Bob Pearson" Subject: Re: Snowberry Gunshield Decal >> Can you tell us where the colors came from? << Guesstimation based on the usual colours of Donald Duck .. if you have any better ideas I'd love to hear them. As for others .. I have a line on the fellow who actually designed and painted Wetaskiwin's gunshield. Bob -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject: Re: 3"/23 Poole gun To: Jerry Phillips You are indeed correct, there was a 3"/23 Poole gun depicted in the movie "The Sand Pebbles", albeit it appeared briefly. There was also a Lewis circular cartridge drum type of machine gun, also as a sort of flavor-adding background in a different scene. Franklyn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Jana & Pavel" Subject: French Navy Books Dear SMML'ies, I was wondering if there is any word on the new publications that I heard rumour about, namely the book on the Dunkerque/Strasbourg Battlecruisers. I know that they will be in French. Regards Pavel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Jana & Pavel" Subject: To Buy Or Not To Buy Dear SMML'ies, I need some advice as to the purchase of a 1/700 Nagato/Matsu. This is the only class of Japanese Battleship missing from my collection. There is a new Aoshima tooling for this class as well as a Hi-Mold Nagato. Naturally there is a considerable difference in price, US $ 25.00 for the Aoshima and US $ 120.00 for the Hi-Mold. What I need to know is, what is the more accurate and value for money kit? If the Hi-Mold kit comes with photo-etch and is more accurate, is this the route to take? I have the Hi-Mold West Virginia and Richelieu, both excellent kits. PS> I can't wait for the 1/700 scale VANGUARD!!!! from B-Resina. Thank you. Regards Pavel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Re: Crew Figures Hans asked - >> I have a somewhat strange problem: I am looking for a crew! I am building a kind of diorama depicting the "Soleil Royal" entering the port of St Rochelle (Or whatever port of France) I need citizens and crew in the scale 1:87, 1: 96 or 1: 100. << 1:87 is HO railroad scale, so figures should be easy to come by. Unpainted plastic figure sets by Preiser would be the best and most economical source, and offer the greatest variety of poses. Try the Walthers web site for current availability. MWL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Sand Pebbles Jerry wrote - >> Didn't the movie "Sand Pebbles" with Steve McQueen have a Hollywood version of a 3"23cal on the bow of the gunboat? << Correct - a good website to visit is www.thesandpebbles.com Mike Alexandria, VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Re: Roberts' British Warships Lawrence asked - >> Could anyone tell me which ships are represented in the following volume: BRITISH WARSHIPS OF THE SECOND WORLD WAR By John Roberts. I notice it has recently been reprinted and was curious as to its contents? Specifically what, if any, cruisers are detailed. << Cruisers shown in this book are Kent (1928 & 1938), Leander (1933), Ajax (1935 & 1940), Manchester (1942), Naiad (1943), and Cairo (1939). Mike Alexandria, VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "Sean D. Hert" Subject: Acryl II Marine Colors Hello All- I was just reading in FSM about Testor's new line of marine paints, developed with Snyder and Short! Does anyone know of the eventual release date of these? Sean D. Hert -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: "George J. Stein" Subject: Re: Crew 1:87 sailing ship 18th century crew. Several sets are made (were made?) by the German HO railroad figure company "Merten." Don't have catalog numbers. George Stein -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: Lump518176@aol.com Subject: BWN Hornet critique Go to Hyperscale.com......Ship modelers discussion group (do a search for Hornet). A while back there was a very interesting critique concerning it...and its lack of accuracy. Check it out. Also get the OOP "Battle Damage Report" book for the Hornet and/or CW's Yorktown class book...both will help alot. Jerry Phillips -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Shane and Lorna Jenkins Subject: New Australian Mail Order option for ship modellers There is now a local option for Australian modellers (not to mention any overseas modellers who want to take advantage of the weak AUD) wanting to access quality ship modelling products and publications. We are now stocking White Ensign Models products (yes we have the RN paints in stock!), SANDLE Hobbies is open for all enquiries on these items. A website is coming soon but in the meantime email us at mailto:sales@sandlehobbies.com for information on prices and products. Cheers Shane and Lorna Jenkins Owners SANDLE Hobbies We welcome enquiries from Manfacturers & Publishers wishing to expand their Australian Market. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Felix Bustelo Subject: International Maritime Modeling October/November 2001 Update I am pleased to announce that the October/November 2001 Update to International Maritime Modeling has been uploaded. http://members.tripod.com/~Febus65/imm.htm The October/November 2001 update to the site includes: Photos of Takashi Sakuyama's 1/500 scale IJN Mikuma, Bob Santos' 1/426 scale USS Pennsylvania and my 1/400 scale S/M Venus and 1/350 scale USS Hoga in the Gallery. Reviews of the KazusaMinato Navy Yard 1/500 scale Hiei and the L'Arsenal 1/400 scale Tripartite Minesweeper, as well as an update to a build-up review of the Heller 1/400 scale S/M Daphne and an addendum to the review of the Iron Shipwrights 1/350 scale USS Vestal that covers the kit instructions in Quick Kit Reviews. Reviews of the L'Arsenal 1/400 scale Grumman F6F Hellcat, Vought F4U Corsair and Curtiss SB2C Helldiver resin sets in Photoetch Reviews. Reviews of Camouflage Volume III: Royal Navy 1943-1944, Warship Pictorial 13: Kongo Class Battleships and Naval Camouflage 1914-1945: A Complete Visual Reference in Book Reviews. Updated the Mirage Models and Trumpeter Models pages with some new releases in the Kit List Page. Updated the L'Arsenal and Atlantic Models pages in the Photoetch List Page. Updated the Model Ship Journal page with the latest issue. Related updates to the Links page. Felix Bustelo International Maritime Modeling URL: http://members.tripod.com/~Febus65/imm.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume