Subject: SMML VOL 1409 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 00:24:39 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Painting photo etch parts 2: HMS Victory identification 3: Turbinia plans 4: Decals 5: Re: Soviet G5 Torpedo Boats 6: Aviso ´Grille´ and M-class boats (series 35) 7: Home made decals 8: Card/Styrene 9: Re: Turbinia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: SantMin@aol.com Subject: Re: Painting photo etch parts >> I don't where this preparation for painting PE stuff started. It just isn't necessary. << I agree with Rusty, I simply airbrush the entire PE sheet and have never had a problem. Usually there is a bit of touchup required after installation to cover areas where the part was cut from the sheet, but that's it. I know Rusty gives the completed model a coat of dullkote and so do I and that should help even more. Cheers, Bob Santos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Friedrich Kappes Subject: HMS Victory identification I have a drawing said to be the Victory, but the ship looks a little different to the Victory as I know her, can you help? You can find the drawing at http://www.geocities.com/friedkappes/victory.jpg Thank you in advance Friedrich The FriedrichFiles http://www.geocities.com/friedkappes/flagship.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "David Hathaway" Subject: Turbinia plans David Last time I looked there was a set of plans for the Turbinia in the Model Boats Magazine catalogue. They have gone on-line at www.modelboats.co.uk. Otherwise the ship is preserved "up north" somewhere (Newcastle?) and when I enquired they could provide copies of the builders plans (take a deep breath before you ask the price though). The ship is on my "to visit" list when I get the chance. The Science Museum in London has a large (4') model of her on display in their ship model area. I have a digital photo of the stern of the model if you want to contact me offline. Regards David Hathaway -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Jim Kloek" Subject: Decals If you have the artwork, you can use a color copy machine to transfer images onto decal paper. Since most of these copiers will enlarge or shrink an image, this can be useful too. I made a couple of 1/350th decals this way from a 1/700 sheet. The same reservations apply as for inkjet though, the copier does not make white, and you have to seal the decal before you put it in water. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: PT Dockyard Subject: Re: Soviet G5 Torpedo Boats This book on the G-5 is from Armada Books. Go to NKRmodels.com in Australia and it will be about $7. Great book but all in Russian. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: thorstenwahl@t-online.de (Wahl, ID3) Subject: Aviso ´Grille´ and M-class boats (series 35) Hi all, just got back from dinner w/ a friend where I was introduced to his father-in-law who as it turned out had spent the war aboard M-series minesweepers (M 5 , 22 and 132) and a Type VIIC before becoming a POW in England. Now here´s my problem - can someone help? He´s loking for kits of the Aviso ´Grille´ (he remembers having seen one a long time ago) and his M-series boats (called M-Boat Series 35 ). Won´t matter whether it´s wood, plastic, resin or paper as long as it´s there at all ;-) Thanks! Thors ´At least we don´t name our ships for our mothers-in-law.´ USS Reuben James to HMS Battleaxe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Eduardo Luis Marcovecchio" Subject: Home made decals Hello people, First of all, I would like to say thanks to everyone that replied to my query regarding home made decals. From the answers I got, I think the way to get the best possible quality would be to buy an Alps printer, but I don't plan to spend too much money to solve this problem. There is something, however, that may solve the problem without spending much money: Dirk Emmermacher, from this list, forwarded my query to another list, where Joern Brakmann (a very nice and helpful person) pointed me to this site: http://www.thedecalpaperstore.com/. The paper this company sells seems to be exactly what I was looking for, and Joern told me that the ink doesn't blur with the water and print quality is quite good on his HP printer! I bought a pack of this paper and I'll try it myself as soon as it arrives. The only problem seems to be the thickness of the decal: according to Joern, it's a bit thicker than what it should be, and that may be a problem when putting decals on surfaces with panel lines. Other than that, this stuff seems to be good! As soon as I get mine and test it, I'll tell you my own opinions about it. Thanks again! Eduardo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Steve Sliwka" Subject: Card/Styrene I'm planning on building a hull, either 767' or 647' (not sure yet) by 70' by 36'. Since card is a lot cheaper than styrene, I plan on forming the hull (similar to plank-on-bulkhead) in card and 'enclosing' the exterior of the card hull in styrene. Does anyone know of a good way to attach the styrene to the card? Styrene looks much more like real steel than card does, unless I'm finishing it wrong. Any tips on that would be helpful as well. I've been experimenting with doing some superstructure sides 2-dimentionally in CorelDRAW. I think this would look very nice when printed out (on a good printer!). Opinions? Hard part is that the white of the card usually doesn't match the colour of the prototype. And the curved superstructure I'm modelling doesn't fare well to converting to a 'flat' image. But most modern merchant ships are relatively square so that's not a problem if modelling in the current era. What better way to justify the arm-and-leg price... Thanks! Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Doug Wilde" Subject: Re: Turbinia Ah, a fellow admirer of a beautiful boat whose importance to modern naval architecture is inestimable. My search for plans has been fruitless. At least plans in the sense of Floating Drydock and such do not exist. I've been corresponding with the folks at the Newcastle Discovery Museum, Newcastle upon Tyne, keeper of Turbinia. They put out a lovely little book: Turbinia: The Story of Charles Parsons and His Ocean Greyhound that contains all of the photographs shown on the PBS program. The saddest photo is Turbinia, nearly cut in two when the CROSBY, a ship launched on the other side of the river, t-boned TURBINIA. The only plan is an inboard profile and plan view. However, in 1980, a nine part series of booklets was published by the City of London Polytechnic, by A. G. Osler and G. R. Grieve. As the forward states: "This series of booklets is designed to bring together a full record of the history of TURBINIA from the first steps in her design to the present resting place at the Science Museum (Tyne and Wear County Council Museum Service). So much original work has been uncovered in our search that it was decided to treat each aspect separately in order to do justice to the detail available." Included are photocopies of Sir Charles Parsons' workbook, to even the handwritten table of offsets. And a series of section drawings is provided, you guess at the spacing. I could do the hull, but a road trip to the T would be needed to pull dimensions off the cabins and pilot house. And I don't have that scheduled for another year or two (have to finish Wolverine and Sable first). Anyway, why some of our resin-casting cousins have not produced a 1/72 scale model is beyond me. A fine, easily-shaped hull with a few, simple above deck structures would make a wonderful addition to our small combatant collection. Right next to the forthcoming Schnellboote. Doug Wilde -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume