Subject: SMML VOL 1515 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 12:01:09 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: R-G USS WASP (LHD-1) 2: Re: USN Slang 1941 3: Mail Orders/ Post Office 4: Warship riding at anchor 5: Re: AO-64 6: Fuso's airplanes 7: Re: Marine didsasters, etc 8: Re: Blue Water Navy Decals 9: Re: AO-64 10: best white paint 11: one for the cruise line fans out there 12: Re: WEM Sovremenny brass set 13: Changing Rooms on HMS Kent 14: Re: Model paints 15: Five Carriers Together 16: German Raiders -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: SANDLE Hobbies new website 2: Alan Raven & John Roberts For sale 3: Colourcoats Paints 4: Cottage Industries: Publishing -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: GUSDOCVILL@aol.com Subject: R-G USS WASP (LHD-1) Gentlemen, Forgive me, if I missed past comments, but looking for anything on the new Revell-Germany USS Wasp. It isn't out here in the middle of th US yet. Saving up my pennies to purchase a couple and GMM PE set for it. Keep up the EXCELLENT work Shane & Lorna!!! Thanks you all! Gus Semper Fi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Bruno Gire" Subject: Re: USN Slang 1941 Hi John! Thank you for your very interesting compilation of USN Slang. Just wanted to send this amusing tip: The French for "to take a French Leave" is "Filer à l'Anglaise", that is (litterally): "to leave the English way"!!!! This is probably what we call "Entente Cordiale" Happy modeling to all Bruno Gire Bordeaux, France -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: JKrakow@aol.com Subject: Mail Orders/ Post Office I don't doubt that in some places the US Postal Service really sucks. However, at the risk of jinxing it, I'll say in their defense that I've sent and received several hundred parcels through the USPO in the past year and haven't had anything to complain about. I always use priority mail on the theory that the faster the package goes, the less time the PO has to damage the contents. I also use the "delivery confirmation" option so I can see who gets what when. (This also cuts down on people who claim they "never got the package") Every once in a while something takes a bit longer than usual, but considering the mind boggling logistics of what the PO does, I'm willing to give them a break. I find the service to be excellent and highly reliable. If somebody is experiencing regular problems, delays, returns, etc. the trouble might be localized to a particular office or sorting center. This could be due to anything from bad management to broken or contaminated machinery. So if practical, taking your parcels to a different zip code area might solve the problem. Also check the new regs on shipping parcels, the PO has instituted some post 9/11 security changes. Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Dean, Tom" Subject: Warship riding at anchor Hi Gang I intend to depict my model at anchor. Could anyone help with the flag hoist and or black ball etc. hoist that a warship riding at anchor would use. I know she would have here callsign up, but I can't for the life of me recall what the rest would be. Thanks Tom Dean Hamilton, Ontario Canada -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Ken Subject: Re: AO-64 Bow wave turbulence, yes, but once the ships are side-by-side, there is a spacing below which, depending on speed, the inevitable physics of the Venturi effect take over, drawing the ships together in an essentially unavoidable collision. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Jesse Sublett Subject: Fuso's airplanes Can somebody please tell me what airplanes the Japanese battleship Fuso carried? Thanks, Jesse -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject: Re: Marine didsasters, etc Well, my suggestion about having lady modelers tell of their reasons for becoming a modeler didn't bring any (lady) guppies to the top of the tank. Too bad. There is a book out about the sinking of the U.S.S. Indianapolis on her way to Leyte after delivering an atomic bomb to a forward bombing base. There were two national tragedies. One was the terrible loss of life, but the other was the way in which the Navy apparently tried to cover up its lack of search and rescue. There is also a TV documentary about it. I am led to inquire if there are any plans or kits etc. for that ill-fated ship. If any crew deserves to be remembered, the men of the Indianapolis certainly do. I will be unable to start such a model, but I urge others to so do. Please give it some thought. The Hood, the Arizona, etc, are well represented, and rightfully so. But so should the "Indy". Franklyn Hi Franklyn, Tamiya have recently released a 1/700 kit of the "Indy". Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Rod Dauteuil" Subject: Re: Blue Water Navy Decals >> However... with the upcoming USS Lexington kit from BWN. . . << Upcoming USS Lexington? Have I been in a fog? I didn't know they were going to produce one. Which is it, CV2 or 16? Rod -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: AO-64 >> Probably typical of a UNREP (Underway Replenishment) Trust me it looks even closer when you are on the deck of one of those ships. << I'll second that! The distances were easily that close. When we were in WestPac and the Tonkin Gulf, the typical unrep maneuver for the ENTERPRISE task group was for Big E to receive fuel and stores from the portside of the replenishment ship (AO, AOE, AE, etc.), while the escorts (BAINBRIDGE included) to unrep from the starboard side. Often there was a vertrep going on at the same time. Now if I could only find my slides from those days.... Best, John Snyder White Ensign Models http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Andrew Jones" Subject: best white paint Just having come from a weekend of fighting with a tin of humbrol white paint & thinner, would like to know what other people use use for white paint or prefer to use...im working on a aero-sled, but i will be working on a few ships that are generally white & would hate to stuff 'em.. heard that wargammers acrylic paint is excellent..hopefully my kit is salvageable with help fro the oven cleaner. if not theres one kit not coming for the display day this week! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Andrew Jones" Subject: one for the cruise line fans out there was watching TV the other night & there was a show on liners..They talked just a little about the liner "france" that later became the "norway"?? is it still cruising around the carribean?? Also in Sydney the Club-med 2 sailing ship used to be a frequent visitor is it still sailing/cruising?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: BECJPARKER@aol.com Subject: Re: WEM Sovremenny brass set Reference using the WEM Sovremenny brass for some of the other Trumpeter 1/200 ships. There is enough rail and doors in 1 Sovermenny sheets to do about 1 and 1/2 of some of the other Trumpeter kits, primarily the Jinan Class I-II and III kits. These are Chinese built (NATO CODE Kotlin Class) destroyers.You can also use the brass for the WW II Type 7 Destroyers that Trumpeter releases as the Anshan/Courageous ex-USSR ship. You can get a better idea of what you can do if you go the the Russian Navy, and Chinese Navy web sites. They have some very good information and line drawings for a lot of the ships you can use the brass on. The main problem you will find with using the brass is that the Sovremenny bow is very sharply sweep which will use the bow rails of the WEM Sheet on the Kotlin Class ships. The Type 7 ships do not have a bow sweep and are straight and use a 2 bar rail. Basically you will have to decide how you want to split up the railing to do as much as you can with it. One last comment the WEM Railing is much better that the brass in the Trumpeter Sovremenny kit you you really shouldn't mix the WEM brass with the Trumpeter brass or you will have to differnt thickness of rain. Charlie -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Nathan Pettigrew" Subject: Changing Rooms on HMS Kent My wife's got me addicted to this show (and its US cousin "Trading Spaces" on TLC). I thought RN modelers might be interested to know that they'll be doing HMS Kent (just a frigate) on Monday. From the BBC America web site: When Changing Rooms Met the Navy (U.S. premiere) premieres Monday, February 4 at 10:00 a.m., 7:00 p.m. and 11:00 p.m. ET, 7:00 a.m., 4:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. PT. In a U.S. premiere, a British Royal Navy battleship plays host to, what proves to be one of the toughest challenges yet in When Changing Rooms Met the Navy. Bubbly presenter Carol Smillie, Handy Andy Kane - the DIY guru - and two top interior designers, experience life on the ocean wave - well, almost - when they go aboard the British Royal Navy battleship HMS Kent to commence interior design combat. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "Michael London" Subject: Re: Model paints How do WEM and Humbrol get their paint products to the customer? I note that paints and varnishes are prohibited items for mailing in the UK. Does this apply in North America? Could it be that quantity is a factor that allows postal delivery or do these suppliers have to rely on couriers or or other means? Just interested. Michael London -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Five Carriers Together From Navy Times online: "Carriers from five nations show their might" http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-741803.php Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: nd.ward@virgin.net Subject: German Raiders The colour scheme of any German raider is difficult, if not impossible to specify. The ships were supplied with large amounts of paint and canvas etc, to change their appearance regularly. Photographs that exist could be true for that day only, and probably was if there was a chance of appearance being reported. You can say that the colour scheme would be unremarkable,and would follow the vast majority of freighters ie black hull, white superstructure and funnel in company colours, recognition books would be consulted for ships of a similar size and profile, and colours taken from that. Canvas strips painted with the flags of warring/neutral nations would be secured on the hull sides. I would also suspect that the paint jobs were not of the best quality, being only to deceive at a distance, and you can imagine the difficulty of painting names on bow and stern at sea. Dave Ward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: SANDLE Hobbies Subject: SANDLE Hobbies new website Hi all, SANDLE Hobbies new web site is up and running at: http://sandlehobbies.com We are an Australian based mail order business dedicated to bringing our customers the best in ship modelling supplies. Concentrating on multimedia kits and extra detail sets, we will supply you with the products you need to finish your model to the standard you desire. Postage is free on most items within Australia and New Zealand. Go on have a look, Cheers, Lorna Jenkins SANDLE Hobbies http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: SAMI ARIM Subject: Alan Raven & John Roberts For sale Hello all, I have a second copy of a folio of autentic plans of Royal Navy warships by Alan Raven and John Roberts, printed in 1971. Included are 1/384 scale plan and profile drawings of Rodney, Royal Oak, Warspite, Renown, Repulse, Ajax, London, Manchester, Sussex, and 1/192 scale plan and profile drawings of Ariadne, Onslow and Lance. The book is in very good condition. Highest offer by Wednesday evening Pacific time will take the book. Best Regards Sami Arim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: John Snyder Subject: Colourcoats Paints Randy Short wrote the other day of shortages of some of the WEM Colourcoats paints. I'd like to address a couple of the points he raised: Randy stated that in the long run, supplies may be spotty. Actually, in the long run supplies will be more regular. Rather than working through a "middle man", we are--as of 3 weeks ago--now in direct contact with the person doing the tinning and mixing, and are able to directly supply priorities to him and advise him of upcoming shortages before they occur. As regards the tinning machine no longer being in production, that is true for the particular machine he uses. There are, however, others on the market and he is exploring acquisition of a second machine to better handle WEM orders. We do have some current shortages, but he's working on filling those and we expect to be shipping all our backorders soon--including to our dealers. Since Caroline and I have been Stateside for the last 2 weeks, I haven't had the chance to check in with our supplier, but will be doing so early this week. Cheers, John Snyder White Ensign Models http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: Cottage Industries: Publishing The thread about the trials and tribulations of cottage industries has been informative. So let's have a look at another facet. Many of the publishers printing the magazines and books you enjoy, are run by small operators. In our case, Model Ship Journal is published by a team of two. One is the editor & publisher who works at it full time, the other is the part-time office coordinator. We work out of a small cottage by the bay that is more business than home but makes a cozy environment for two creative types. Sure we work hard, often 20-some hours per day, and I love it. It's an energizing job and not an easy one. New challenges emerge every day. The post office mangles or loses our precious Model Ship Journals, costing us much money and grief to replace each quarter. We need more articles and photographers to contribute. Callers bend my ear, "Too many military ships, Too much plastic, resin, scratchbuilds..." I guess that means we are pretty well-rounded in our coverage. Because we also hear, "Not enough of all of the above." In any event we listen and I enjoy 'chewing the fat' with anyone who takes the time to call or write. With the VHF radio alerting me to photographic possibilities coming into port and coffee always brewing, it's a good life. We're constantly brainstorming ways to improve and bring new, useful products to market. Our latest venture will provide inexpensive historical ship photos as high quality images for your research. It's something you've asked for often in the past three years. Cindy Arnett, master cypher and office coordinator figured how she could take my imaging ideas and invest in new technology to make it happen; cheaper and more quickly than ever before while maintaining a high level of quality and fast delivery. Our little magazine is growing steadily and pays it's way--almost unheard of for 'start-up' publishing operations. Although we face stiff competition from established titles, it's good to see them upgrading their magazines to better serve the ship modeler. Competition keeps us improving as an industry, but it's the alliances within the industry that really make things happen. We are coordinating with other publishers and manufacturers, combining efforts and finding common areas to bring a mix of good product to the modeler. So there you have it, a snapshot of life in the small publishing business. I'm excited about our hobby, which some say is a dying art. To that I'd say ship modelers are more savvy than ever. We demand better and more well-developed products. The mainstream ship modeler has moved from lone hobbyist to influential consumer of products that more than ever are the best available. You keep us moving forward and we are all alive in the 'good old days' of ship modeling. Victor Baca Editor & Publisher MODEL SHIP JOURNAL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume