Subject: SMML VOL 1527 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:55:56 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Unreps 2: Submarine UNREP 3: NON MARITIME!!! 4: Airbrushes 5: RN T Class submarines 6: Re: Underway Replenishment 7: Fate of the CUIDAD DE INCA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation 1: UK IPMS Small Warships SIG 2: APMA site update -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: Unreps In general, subs--and especially nukes--take aboard all their requirements before leaving on patrol and are then self-sufficient until they return. That said, here's a photo of an unusual feedwater unrep retween BAINBRIDGE and SHARK, forwarded to me by a former BAINBRIDGE officer who served after I did, in the 80s, and I couple I shot in the 60s when we were on North SAR (Search and Rescue) Station in the Tonkin Gulf. As for collision mats, that term in the USN generally refers to something used after-the-fact in damage control to reduce or stop flooding. I seem to recall that we had cylindrical pneumatic fenders over the side, but they wouldn't have counted for much in a hard sideswipe or bump. Cheers, John Snyder USS BAINBRIDGE, 1966-70 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Don Simon" Subject: Submarine UNREP Hello all, Yes, it is possible to conduct an underway replenishment (UNREP) with a surfaced submarine. In October 1986 my ship USS Bainbridge (CGN 25) was directed to transfer feed water to an American SSN. The transfer was made underway at about 12 knots and it took over 4 hours. Unusual, yes, but it posed no special problems. Photo attached. Don Simon Troy, VA Hi all, The photos from John and Don have been posted on the SMML site in the misc ships page under References. Shane (more site updates to come this afternoon as well) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "elwyatt" Subject: NON MARITIME!!! Hi you guys over the big pound. What does "BACK 40" Mean Best wishes Edward Wyatt -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "John E. Fail" Subject: Airbrushes I am considering the purchase of an airbrush for working on my models which are mostly 1:24 and 1:48 size. I would be painting large surfaces such as main decks etc. and small parts as well. I am aware of the learning curve in using an airbrush and know I will have to be patient. In looking at catalogs and websites there is an enormous array of airbrushes, compressors and accessories out there and I don't have a clue what is best for me. I want to get the best airbrush for my purposes and of course price is a major consideration but I am willing to pay to get it right the first time in purchasing an airbrush, accessories etc. Most of my work will be with enamel such as the stuff in Testors 1/4 oz bottles. I have to mix special colors often in that most all of my models are U.S. Coast Guard cutters which use "SPAR" (an offshoot of buff) and Blue Deck Gray which neither are available off the shelf to my knowledge. Any suggestions, comments or recommendations from the fine people on SMML will be very much appreciated. Thanks to all John Fail, QMC U.S. Coast Guard (Retired) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "frank c. stile" Subject: RN T Class submarines Does anyone has any information regarding the placement of the railing on Royal Navy "T" class subs. The 1/700 scale Sea Scale waterline kit of the same submarines has nice photo etch, however the instructions leave one in the dark regarding placement of the railings. The several photos I've seen are too obscure to determine if the subs had railings. I've E-mailed the RN Museum but never received an answer. Can anyone help?" Frank Stile, Canyon Lake, Texas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Rick Heinbaugh Subject: Re: Underway Replenishment One feature that hasn't been addressed is refueling tankers at sea. At least in the early '80s, there was an evolution called "console", wherein a huge civilian tanker (called a transport oiler) on contract to Uncle Sam would go alongside a replenishment tanker at sea and fill 'er up. I don't know any more about the evolution because the only requirement for the Officer of the Deck on a Cruiser was to "stay clear" of ships in a console. I believe it was AOE Sacramento getting a fillup from Sealift Caribbean (T-AOT 174). They just kept going the same direction for about a day and a half. These ships were called Transport Oilers and painted civilan colors (white upperworks & black hull, in the picture in "Combat Fleets"). They don't have all the suspension booms and rig used for underway replenishment; I believe they floated the hoses over to the customer ship. This would keep a regular tanker closer to the Battle Group, rather than requiring they go back to a regular port (possibly far away) to refill with cargo fuel. At the time, I evaluated the scene for a possible diorama subject and decided it looked too boring. From my dim memory - Rick -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Michael London" Subject: Fate of the CUIDAD DE INCA Following the Lake Ontario Tall Ships Rendezvous in 1984 the above ship was trapped in Canadian waters at Kingston, Ontario under threat of seizure by the US Authorities. She was a sister of the MARQUES which sank in the Atlantic earlier in the year and relatives of the American crew members who died were suing her owners who owned both ships. This action was not permitted under British or Canadian law. Ways were being sought to take her overland through Canadian territory to bypass the Eisenhower Lock on the St. Lawrence Seaway where she would have been liable to seizure. She was believed to be the oldest square rigger afloat having been built in 1858. An ad appeared in the Engineering Journal in November 1984 asking for ideas on how to effect this transfer but I have not heard if any ideas were put forward, if the transfer was made, or even if the ship still exists. Does any SMML member have any knowledge of this? Michael London -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Leslie Brown" Subject: UK IPMS Small Warships SIG The latest issue of the newsletter, Escort Issue 15, has been posted today at www.brown.abelgratis.co.uk. As usual, if you have any problems, please let me know. Regards Les Brown -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Shane Subject: APMA site update Hi all, The APMA (Australian Plastic Modeller's Assoc) site has been updated. Check it out at: http://apma.org.au Regards, Shane APMA Secretary Havinf FUN making models http://apma.org.au Now credit card enabled -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume