Subject: SMML VOL 1537 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:42:02 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: 1:600 ships 2: Re: Ship Speeds 3: Re: 688 class 4: Top speeds and sea storys 5: Questionalable dioramas 6: Re: Turbo airbrush 7: fine line airbrush 8: resin parts 9: Re: Sea stories -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: HERE IS YOUR CHANCE TO BE IN A BOOK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Michiel Woort" Subject: 1:600 ships >> I second Keith's request. My wallet is ready too.<< I think more of use are waiting to see some really new 1:600 kits but if they will come?? I am very happy on this moment with the WEM 600 products. >> How about a 1:600 Renown (WW2 fit)? << Or HMS Victourius (WW 2) and what about some german ships. Michiel Woort The Netherlands -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: Ship Speeds >> So John; A diorama of a major USN warship (DD or larger?) towing a water skier would be reasonable?? Or BAINBRIDGE drag racing a CALIFORNIA?? << Well, to have skied behind BAINBRIDGE at high speed I'd have wanted a LOOOOONG tow rope: the wake for a good ways behind the fantail was VERY high and turbulent! Saying that, one of BAINBRIDGE's early CO's had the shipfitters hop up the engine in the Captain's gig so that he could ski behind it in the Med. (He was the same skipper who was at the conn of BAINBRIDGE in the James River when the Coast Guard cited him for speeding--with the BAINBRIDGE! All I will say about BAINBRIDGE's top speed is that, the morning of ENTERPRISE's flight deck fire in 1969, we were running a lot, LOT faster than the published figure as we ran down to her aid. Cheers, John Snyder -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Tom Kremer Subject: Re: 688 class Scott writes: >> Upon her decommissioning, a lot of the crew were assigned to the Los Angeles, and I asked them what it was like to go from a slow-approach to a bona-fide fast attack submarine. They lamented that they still couldn't do top speed (at least sustained) as it tended to rip the SHT (the anechoic tiles) off the hull! << I think it would take a brave or a trusting man to run a Electric Boat built 688 class at either full speed or max depth. Bad enough that welders would sign logs indicating they made welds that didn't exist but when the QC inspectors sign logs that say they inspected non existent welds I'd really get worried! Tom K -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "william k code" Subject: Top speeds and sea storys I can believe that the "America" could make some really high speeds. As far as the" Liberty" incident it was no accident! They knew who they were attacking and meant to take her out quickly before she could call for help...then they continued there attack with gunboats.. Lost a first Cousin in this attack.. We should of hit the Navel docks at Haifa were those damm gunboats were based .. They didn't want us looking over there shoulders as they cooked message traffic at the prelude to the 67 war.. We of course swept the whole thing under the rug. We accepted there money but I don't think our Government ever accepted there explanation .. Somebody In the Israeli high command had very big balls indeed! A truly sad day for our navy.. On a brighter note, I remember making a speed run in Nimitz back in 1977, her 2nd Med cruise. We had a huge wave form about 30 ft behind the ship and the rear of the ship vibrated enough to take the filling out of your teeth.. I went back to the Engine test shop on the main deck and looked at this towering knuckle of water behind us..very impressive.. We left our Nuclear Cruiser escorts hull down in short order.. I have no idea how fast we were going but I was impressed. regards Bill Code -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Andrew Jones" Subject: Questionalable dioramas Wel it would be god to see a water skier behind a DD or something like that.. Reminds me of the end of the movie "down periscope" while the credits where running there is a shot of the woman cast member water skiing behind the old diesel sub from San Fransico .. Now that would be a good diroama & maybe in r/l! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: CaptainOD@aol.com Subject: Re: Turbo airbrush I have a turbo airbrush and used it in conjunction with a Pasche H model. I spray the model with the single action H in the basic colors. Then using artist inks which come in literally hundreds of colors to shade and weather the base color. The key word is ink, paint will not work unless it is thinned so fine to be useless. The inks are waterproof and the control of the medium with the turbo is unbelievable. I don't know the current costs but mine was well over $300 when new and is a very delicate unit unlike the standard H which can survive a nuke strike. I wouldn't recommend the turbo for most people, but combined with an air eraser unit, you can achieve weathering effects that would not be possible without them. Bob O'Donovan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Kurt Van Dahm Subject: fine line airbrush If you are looking for a fine line or small detail air brush check out the Badger Air Brush Co's Sotar 20/20. It is designed just for very fine detail and it handles acrylics as well as solvent paints. It is sort of expensive, but recently Micro-Mark was selling them for just over $100 (about 1/4 list price) as a promo - I thought it was a printing error when I saw the price and inquired and it was a legitimate price at the time but don't know if it is still valid. The 20/20 is used by fingernail artists who do the tiny little designs in fancy fingernail jobs so you can see it must work pretty good at fine work. I have one and use it for painting areas where masking is difficult. Badgers web site is http://www.badger-airbrush.com Take care, Kurt Van Dahm Westmont, IL NRG member -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "roy knight" Subject: resin parts Greetings all, I am wanting to cast my own resin parts for models, what is the best way to make molds and how hard is it to use liquid resin? I am planning to use the original to cast the mold. How do you prevent air bubbles in the resin? Is there different methods for making large and small parts? Is there a method for making a hard mold that will last for multiple castings, between 10 and 15? How big of a pour hole will I need to make in the cast? Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Roy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: annobon4@aol.com Subject: Re: Sea stories Hi Guys I have two sea stories for you. In today's newspaper was a article about the Battleship New Jersey Museum. As more compartments get opened up and prepared for tourists. Personal items are found left in lockers and boxes such as love letters, dear john letters,and the replies from the sailors for them. The 2nd story occurred on the USS Gettysburg back in 1991. The ship had been just commissioned into service and was opened to visitors. I noticed a guy talking to a Chief Petty Officer and then this gray hair woman in her 60's appeared and wanting to know what he was doing. He told her he was talking to the chief. She grabbed him by the collar telling him we're in a tour group. Let's go. The guy lowered his head and said Yes,Mother. Following her back to the tour group. Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: WVeigele@aol.com Subject: HERE IS YOUR CHANCE TO BE IN A BOOK The author of the book "PC Patrol Craft of World War II" (www.astralpublishing.com/pcraft.htm), that is popular among ship modelers, is writing a book about other U. S. Navy WWII patrol craft. If you have made a model of a PCC, PCEC, PCER, PCE, PCS, SC, YMS, PY, PYc, AM, PGM, or PF please send a photograph of the model with a brief account of the size and scale of and where, why, how, etc. you made the model. The author will publish appropriate pictures and cite the modelers and give full credit in the book. Please send your items to: Wm. J. 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