Subject: SMML VOL 1550 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:18:35 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: New Carrier Names 2: Bow draft numbers 3: The SunLink.com 4: "31-knot Burke" 5: Re: NZ navy attacked by WARBIRDS 6: new carriers to be UK's largest ever warships -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: New books from Poland 2: 1:700 Ship Masters For Sale -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Subject: New Carrier Names I agree that it would be great to see the new carriers have the traditional names of Lexington, Yorktown (CG-48 is on the way out in a few years; has to be considering she's serving as a training/testing ship), Saratoga, etc., but I honestly don't expect it. One good thing, though, is that the new assault ships such as Wasp, Essex, etc. are getting these names. To me, this might even be better, as these ships are rapidly becoming the new focus of the fleet; and hey, they even sort of look like the old WWII bird farms. Devin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject: Bow draft numbers I am getting ready to put the draft numbers on the stem ( telling how much depth of water the vessel needs, from waterline to lowest point of the keel) of a model. Can anyone please advise where the un-shown (to coin a word) level is, actually? All I ever see is the numbers, but the indicated draft could be at the top of a given number, in the middle, or at the bottom of it. Your advice will be appreciated. Thanks. Franklyn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject: The SunLink.com http://www.westsoundsun.com/news/2002/february/0221subs.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: BSteinIPMS@aol.com Subject: "31-knot Burke" Just as an aside, most historical references credit then-Captain Arleigh Burke gaining his "31-knot Burke" nickname for steaming DesRon 23 at a high rate of knots. According to his biography, actually the reverse was true: he was being chastised in a radio message for steaming too slow. Based on where his position was versus where the command authorities wanted him to be, they calculated his speed at 31 knots, several knots less than they counted on him maintaining in order to be in position in time. They radioed him a message which began "31-knot Burke..... Jones, Ken, & Hubert Kelley Jr., "Admiral Arleigh (31-knot) Burke-The Story of a Fighting Sailor". Bob Steinbrunn Minneapolis Nautical Research Guild -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "John Sutherland" Subject: Re: NZ navy attacked by WARBIRDS Whilst I would be the last to agree with the scrapping of the RNZAF's strike wing (NOT the whole airforce as claimed by the correspondent), I would like to point out that the RNZN isn't the only Navy in the world to use privately owned aircraft in this manner. Unless I am greatly mistaken the Royal Navy uses a private firm for the same purpose, whose aircraft, IIRC, also includes vintage Hunters. Many Navies, including the RAN and the RNZN, also use civilian jets (eg. Lear Jets) for the same function. The Warbirds would have to be more realistic than a Lear Jet! Incidentally, the Hunters are actually faster than the former RNZAF Skyhawks, and for that matter the RN's own Sea Harriers. John Sutherland Wellington, New Zealand -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Andrew Jones" Subject: new carriers to be UK's largest ever warships Reuters.. Plans for 2 aircraft carriers to boost Britain's long range striking power will produce the largest warships the country has ever operated. The ships to be built by Thales Sa or BAE systems under a $3billion programme,may be 3 times as large as the 3 invincible class ships that form the current British carrier force. when plans for the new cariers were announced in 1998 their size was estimated at 30,000 to 40,000 tonnes. But studies by Thales & BAE sugested that to deliver the desired fighting strength their displacement should be between 52,000 & 58,000 tones when fully loaded with fuel & munitions. At the end of the their intended 30 - 50 year lives, during which they would inevitably gain weight, the displacement would be up to 64,000 tonnes. The govt is due to choose between Thales & BAE for the ships early nextyear. The new ships are to enter service in 2012 & 2015, each operating 30 F-35 fighters & 10 support aircraft, but up to 50 aircraft during crisies. With lengths of 262 to 292 metres (860 to 958 feet), the ships will be not much shorter than the 333 metre Nimitz class cariers, currently the worlds largest warships. the new british ships may be wider than the US ships The previous largest British arship was the 51,000 tonne carrier Ark Royal, which was retired in 1978 have a good weekend all -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Keith Butterley Subject: New books from Poland Hi all, As much as I don't want to take on anything new at this time, there are a number of new titles from Poland (they are not printed in English) that may be of interest to you. I can't give you prices at this time, as there are some obvious discrepancies in my suppliers catalogue and I am trying to get them clarified. AJ Press KONIGSBERG, KOLN, KARLSRUHE BS publishing (Profile Morskie) HMS YORK HMS CALCUTTA AKITSUSHIMA HMS DELHI JUNYO HMS SWIFTSURE KONGO YANKEE & DELTA (Russian subs) HATSUSHIMO EVERTSEN USS MOFFET Warships of the World SCHARNHORST Let me know if you have any interest in these titles. PLEASE NOTE: We shall be closed during the month of March. Regards Keith Butterley http://www.warshipbooks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Mike Bartel Subject: 1:700 Ship Masters For Sale Hi All, I'm offering the following sets of 1:700 Scale ship masters for sale. All are cancelled ships. They are ideal for production, but they no longer fit into my future business plans. The kits I am offering are: HMS Invincible (1921) HMS St. Andrew (1921) MNF 'Gille' battle cruiser (1913) I am offering them as a set or individually. Please email me for pricing. Mike Bartel IHP http://ihphobby.tripod.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume