Subject: SMML VOL 1594 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 00:13:21 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Minas Geraes 2: Tamiya 3: USS Alabama and USS Drum 4: Re: Journal Attack 5: Re: USS Alabama 6: US Subchasers 7: Re: SCs and PCs of WWII 8: Re: Minas Gerais, Arromanches, Karel Doorman 9: Battleship Park 10: Re: Contact for RoG missing parts 11: Herbaceous Borders Class (aka WWI Flowers) 12: Re: Minas Geraes etc -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: JOHNEME@aol.com Subject: Minas Geraes Richard Hough's book, The Great Dreadnought has an extensive section on the desgin, building, and delivery of the Sao Paulo and Minas Geraes, as they were the predecessors of the Agincourt (Sultan Osman I, Rio de Janiero). John Emery -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Richard Sweeney Subject: Tamiya Hello All. I had the pleasure today of buying the new Tamiya "Pinz Eugen", I must admit, I can only support the descriptions that both Steve Wiper and Tamiya's Website. The kit is beautifully done and my copy IS flash free, (I know new molds SHOULD be.) The kit does include parts for either her configuration in "Operation Rhinebung" or in "Operation Cerberus" My only wish is that they had not cast the struts for the Arado 196's floats in one piece which takes up the entire area of the whole strut assembly, a minor and nitpicking detail that I'm sure the upcoming photo-etch sets will correct. If you have any interest in crusiers or Capital ships of the Kriegsmarine in WWII, getting this kit should not disappoint you. Now for some minor grovelling, If my memory has not failed me, did Steve Wiper say that a Warship Pictorial on the "Prinz Eugen" was on your short list? If so I sure hope that you include a nice section on her Career in the US Navy as the USS Prinz Eugen (IX-300) Happy Modeling, Rich Sweeney -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Graeme Martin Subject: USS Alabama and USS Drum I visited USS Alabama in January of 1994 and USS Drum was rusted through at the water line on her outer skin then. It would not surprise me if Alabama is going the same way. They usually keep the port side of the museum ship (side facing the visitors) all freshly painted and spruced up. Go over to the starboard side of the ship and you can see the corrosion at work around gun mount bases etc. If this has been going on for the last 40 years I hate to think how thin her skin is becoming underneath. The same thing maybe happening to the USS North Carolina too. As she has a public face (port side) and a not so pretty face (starboard). I guess It's all a matter of money with museum ships. Graeme Martin. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: NAVYDAZE@aol.com Subject: Re: Journal Attack Jorgen, Yes, the FSM horoscopes was an April Fools joke - it even said so on the article. I am a Social Worker by trade and I thought by inserting that into the forum it might get a few laughs and get us off that subject of the payment for articles. Sorry guys but it is what we call "redirecting" in the Social Services trade :-). Mike NAVYDAZE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: CapnAgee@aol.com Subject: Re: USS Alabama Drum has been taken from the water and placed on cradles guaranteeing a much longer life. A few years back I visited the USS Alabama Park and saw Drum heeled over badly. I was told she had been damaged during a hurricane that had occurred since my previous visit two years earlier. Ships can't just sit and last forever. Now you can see all of her and see where she needs additional repair. As for a coffer dam around Alabama only the folks down there can answer that right now. They recently opened a new website at www.ussalabama.com and you can contact them for exact answers but if you take a look at Jim Flander' website, you can see Drum as she sits on her cradles and see the rust damage well. Webshots Community - jim_flanders's Community Page Ray Agee aka CapnAgee@aol.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "DarekL" Subject: US Subchasers >> Something useful to advancing the hobby would be nice. I am interested in WW2 subchasers and corvettes. Does anyone know anything about the US 110' SC's that were in the English Channel in 1944? What about the PC's on Atlantic patrol. Paint schemes; radar; weapons? << If you don't mind distractions take a look at my website. There is some material about the US Subchaser from WWII. BTW hope I don't contribute to the information overload :) http://www.paperlab.com/index.html Darek -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: WVeigele@aol.com Subject: Re: SCs and PCs of WWII Ted Treadwell is to be commended for adding information to his website for modelers of WWII subchasers. Ted's comments that interest in SCs and PCs is timely is illustrated by the fact that PC 566 was recently credited with sinking U-166 fifty years after the fact. This story was shown recently on TV. The SC and PC subchasers of WWII were important ships and mostly neglected until the two recent books about them : Treadwell's "Splinter Fleet" and my "PC Patrol Craft of World War II." Ted mentions SC models that are available. Commander Series makes a fine PC model, and the book gives many photographs and drawings to help modelers. I also would be happy to share photos and other details of PCs with modelers. These two type ships deserve more attention of modelers and historians. Bill Veigele -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: AAA Hobby Subject: Re: Minas Gerais, Arromanches, Karel Doorman >> My personal fav is the Canadian HMCS Bonaventure. Maybe, in part, it's because it's the only "North American" variant of the Colossus/Majestic (C/M) class. << Canada had 3 of the class - Warrior (46-48), Magnificent (48-57) and Bonaventure (57-70) - each of which could easily be built from the Heller kit, with the early pair being axial decks and out of the box builds, more or less. BTW, I have not seen it for sale in 6 years. IIRC, they last issued it in 1988, so look on eBay, at the local shows, etc. James Corley AAA Hobby Supply email: aaahobby@earthlink.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: AAA Hobby Subject: Battleship Park Funny you should ask today. I just got home from the IPMS Mobile show - fair show - at the battleship. 1 - Yes, the Drum is grounded now. The primary concern was preventing further damage to the hull form hurricane force winds and waves. It seems the last couple of big storms had smashed her into the dock and she suffered some damage. She is now high and dry and undergoing repairs. The hull looked to be in fairly good shape, but the aft torpedo outer doors have been completely rusted away, along with some other small patches. Couldn't get much out of the park guys 'cuz they didn't know. Hopefully she will get a Cavalla-style rebuild. 2 - Yes, the Alabama is having a cofferdam built around her, but more for storm protection than anything else. The top of the concrete wall is only about 5 feet or so above the high tide, so a good storm surge will flood the basin being constructed but the wall should still provide enough breakwater effect to help the ship. If the storm surge is high enough to float the ship over the wall - about 40 feet - a battleship floating around downtown is the least of their worries!! James Corley AAA Hobby Supply email: aaahobby@earthlink.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: R C Marelius Subject: Re: Contact for RoG missing parts I wrote direct to Revell AG, at the address on their website, last year to get some replacement decals - horribly out of register - for one of their Type XXI U Boat kits (and had my sister the German teacher translate it into German, just to be sure. I received a fresh set of decals from the US parent in Illinois. So I suppose you can try either one, but since the kit hasn't seen wide distribution in the US yet, the German address would probably be your best bet. Rick -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Bob Pearson" Subject: Herbaceous Borders Class (aka WWI Flowers) Hi All, I would like to add some illustrations on the WWI Flower Class Sloops to my corvette website. I already have John Lambert's article in the September 1973 Military Modelling and see that there is an article on them in one of the 1989 issues of Warship (volume XIII - issues 49-52). As the bound volume is available for $40 USD I would like to know what the article consists of before spending the money on it. Regards, Bob Pearson Flower Class Corvettes http://www.cbrnp.com/RNP/flower/index.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: URUDOFSKY@aol.com Subject: Re: Minas Geraes etc Minas Geraes builder's model (1:48) at the National Maritime Museum is one of the finest models ever made. See: Brian Lavery's "Ship Models" Their purpose and development from 1650 to the present, page 104. U. Rudofsky -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume