Subject: SMML VOL 1691 Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 11:56:08 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: CVE's as ferries 2: Re: CVEs as ferries 3: Re: Strath Class Admiralty Trawlers and 1:192 Fittings 4: cve's as ferries 5: ESSEX Class Question -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Cruise books for sale -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Roland Mar Subject: Re: CVE's as ferries Mr. Donegan, As far as I know, it was common practice to employ CVE's as aircraft ferries. Army fighter aircraft usually did not have the "legs" to get to the theater of operations without a ride. Once we had enough CVE's to keep the U-boats under control, they frequently diverted them to ferry duty. I also understand that in the Pacific, absent a credible Japanese submarine threat to our supply lines, they used CVE's as floating replacement depots for the Fast Carrier Task Forces air groups. In the post WW II era some CVE's were reclassified as aircraft ferries. My memory may not be all it should be, but I believe that one of our first naval losses in the Vietnam war was the aircraft ferry CARD [or possibly the CORE], mined in the Mekong while delivering Huey's for the Army. I moved recently, and much of my library will remain boxed up until I move again [smaller house], but somewhere in the stack is a book on CVE's that is fairly definitive. The title is something like "The Little Boys" or "The Small Boys" by an author named Youngblood. Sorry I can't be more certain about it, but it probably has photos and line drawings of that configuration. Hope this helps. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Lkjohnson214@aol.com Subject: Re: CVEs as ferries I've seen pictures of some of them from the Korean war era acting as ferries with the 40mms cocooned under those ugly igloo type covers. Cape Esperance, Sitkoh Bay and Windham Bay are the ones that I have seen photos of in this configuration. The 20s were removed, and interestingly, the 5"/38 on the fantail was active. The ones used in Vietnam a decade later as AKVs had the cocooned weapons removed. Lance Johnson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: George Peat Subject: Re: Strath Class Admiralty Trawlers and 1:192 Fittings >> I am preparing to order a set of John Lambert's plans for the Strath Class A/S Trawlers of WW1. I'd like to order his plans for deck gun at the same time. A plan in an old Model Boats says most carried a 12-pounder. However, being a dumb Colonial, I don't know the difference between Mk I, Mk II, Mk III, Mk V and Mk 95***Mod 8 (OK, I made that one up), but you get the drift. Can one of our Brit contributors shed some light on the subject? << Ed, When you order the drawings from John Lambert also ask for the correct drawings for the main armament and I know John well enough to know that he will send the correct set you require. There are a multitude of Modifications to these guns running from mounts to other changes that were found necessary. Another factor was what was available when the trawler was fitted out so the gun mods could vary between ships of the same class -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Andrew Jones" Subject: cve's as ferries Well during WW2 carriers were used as transports, especially in the Pacific, so I guess that during the Atlantic they would be used as ferries but think more for Pacific..some spent their whole WW2 life being transports taking planes from one military base to another & then going back to pick up more & then after the war bringing POW's home or troops etc.. but would think even transporting anything 40mm & other a/a guns wouldn't be mothballed..so maybe it was during the Korean war that the footage was taken as I don't know much about the Korean war & how the navy worked if they were attacked by any chinese or Nth Korean planes if they were at all. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "David Edgerly" Subject: ESSEX Class Question Hello to the list! I've been looking for some information regarding the color of the undersides of exterior walkways and exposed overheads. Were they white or camouflage colored? The only one I've seen is the Lex in Corpus Christi, TX but I doubt that it is the same as the WW II colors. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Dave Edgerly Austin, TX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: SeaPhoto@aol.com Subject: Cruise books for sale Hi Everyone, I am selling off more cruise books over the next few weeks on eBay. This week, I am listing the following: USS Pelleliu LHA-5 83-84 Westpac USS Horne CG-30 87-88 Westpac USS Lake Champlain CG-57 89-90 Westpac USS Jason AR-8 92-93 USS Roark DE-1053 1973 USS Coontz DLG-9 64-65 My seller ID is Seaphoto; just do a search by seller to find these. All have a starting price of 9.99 with no reserve. 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