Subject: SMML VOL 1717 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 01:05:18 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: 1/350 enterprise 2: Re: NZ Navy poster 3: HP model of SMS Gneisenau - a short review 4: Re: The British Minelaying Cruisers 5: Maritime Relics 6: Re: Relics 7: Bombs found -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Jansen, Matthijs" Subject: Re: 1/350 enterprise The finished model is 1005 mm long according to the box. The width is around 25) mm and the height about 200 I guess. I recommend you don't make the thing too small, otherwise your big E looks like a canned tuna. By the way, I guessed the height and width since I am reading the SMML at work and I don't bring my big E with me every day. Matthijs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Dave Shirlaw Subject: Re: NZ Navy poster Darren: The RNZN poster offer was a promo for their website. The supply of posters has been exhausted. I was lucky enough to get one as they are excellent. Dave Shirlaw Editor, Seawaves Magazine www.seawaves.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Pletscher-Lenz-Schneider" Subject: HP model of SMS Gneisenau - a short review Darius Przezdziecki asked my opinion on the SMS Scharnhorst kit of HP-Models. I only have the Gneisenau kit, but I don't believe that there are many differences, if any. I made a short examination of the kit in the box, and I guess it could be interesting for others too. So here it is: The hull looks very nice with fair detailing. The "swallow's net" at the bow and the 8.8 cm casemate abaft it are, however, shaped not quite correctly. There are no anchors at the bow or the stern, but two trident-like things in the kit which are probably ment to be anchors. The supports of the searchlight platforms at each midship beam are simple blocks and are a good deal too big. The bulwark abaft the fore superstructure is missing. The fore superstructure looks strongly simplified, and the upper bridge deck is shown in the building instruction with its front side pointing aft. Also the aft superstructure sufferes from some simplifying. There are 3 flat funnels and 1 rund one with no detailing on their surfaces except for one pipe at the flat ones and two pipes at the round one. These may be correct for Gneisenau, but Scharnhorst had no visible pipes at her funnels. I am, however, afraid that the funnels will be the same in the Scharnhorst kit. The deck houses at the bottom of the funnels look quite intersting and different for each funnel. I am, however, not quite sure if they are correct. Also there are no markings where to place them onto the deck. The main turrets are completely round, which is not correct. The boats are obviously copied from other kits and are insufficient both in number and, at least some of them, in shape and size. The small guns were all broken off from their shields in my kit. The fighting tops are simply round, which is not correct. There should be small corners for the guns (which are also not provided in the kit). The platforms above them are simply missing. There are some short lengths of a silvery thread to build the masts from, but that seems to be impossible. The building instructons call for fixing the upper length flat to the top of the lower one (!). The person who made this building instruction probably never built a model. Nevertheless, I guess this one of the better HP kits. Falk Pletscher -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Friedrich Kappes Subject: Re: The British Minelaying Cruisers I seek for a line drawing of the Adventure (British minelayer 1927). Who can help? Friedrich The FriedrichFiles http://www.geocities.com/friedkappes/flagship.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "David Clark" Subject: Maritime Relics The posts about ship relics are very interesting and it is fascinating to read about what people collect and cherish. In the 1980s I managed an archaeological laboratory and had to oversee the analysis and curation of a range of archaeological materials. My department had just commenced maritime archaeology and my first experience with shipwreck relics was 140 year old barrels of pork. One of my other roles was defleshing dead animals but nothing could compare with the smell of those barrels of pork. It was my constant companion at work and seemed to follow me home at night. David -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: Re: Relics There is, or used to be, an 18" shell from one of the WW One monitors on the concourse in Waterloo station. I would be interested to know if it is still there? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Jim Mc Subject: Bombs found I can't say where I saw this, but I have read that on occasion, REAL bombs turn up in the Thames river when they dredge it. Maybe some of our UK readers know more???? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume