Subject: SMML VOL 1726 Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 12:05:37 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: New Dumous SUB 2: Trumpeter Hornet & Essex 3: Re: Why didn't Bismarck steam stern first into Brest??? 4: Landing Ship Types 5: Re: Dublin hobby shops 6: Re: Shoulder patches 7: Re: Relics 8: Pit-Road Neosho in-box preview -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: DONRCSHIPS@aol.com Subject: New Dumous SUB Hey all this is your Portland Rustbucket, I Could use some help has any one ever built one of those Subs, The new 33 inch one. For I am thinking about doing one for a very close friend of the family. I Know very little of it. Except it is a 2 piece hull and vacum parts? Any help or advice good or bad I Can sure use, Thank you Don IN Portland -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Chuck Evans" Subject: Trumpeter Hornet & Essex Hello all, Just got some inside info who said that Trumpeter was working with Tom's Model Works and would be introducing the 1:350 Hornet (CV-8) with a target release date of this August with the Essex (CV-9) to follow two months later. I'll keep you informed as I receive new info. Chuck Evans Minneapolis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "D.Przezdziecki" Subject: Re: Why didn't Bismarck steam stern first into Brest??? I am not pretending to have any detailed knowledge about Bismarck but I am puzzled as to just why should she attempted to steam stern first??? From the few books about Bismarck which I read it is apparent that even during trials it was discovered that she was unable to steer by using just her engines. As far as I understand it, once her rudder was jammed by a torpedo hit, attempts were made to stear by the engines alone but they were abandoned as futile. Why would steaming stern first fared any better??? Regards D.Przezdziecki -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Kelvin Mok Subject: Landing Ship Types I always had a problem distinguishing the various types of WWII landing ships and their acronyms. In the June 2002 issue of National Geographic there is a foldout illustration of the D Day invasion beaches that is a work of art. At the bottom of the foldout is a very neat and informative list of the landing craft used. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Colm O'Leary Subject: Re: Dublin hobby shops >> Does someone now if there is any hobby shop worth the name in Dublin, Ireland? I'll be there over this upcoming weekend and have a few hours to spend on my own. << Hi Bjorn, I'm afraid that there's ony one hobby/model shop in Dublin that could even be called that. And even then, compared to the ones in London it's pretty pathetic. Still it's about the best one in Ireland and has a good selection of model kits if you make cars, planes or trains. The ship side is a little neglected but not bad. It's called Marks Models and it's off the south quay in dublin. Coming from O'Connell street, you go over the bridge, cross to the far side of the road, turn left down the quay and then take the first turn right (there's a monument with a coronet on top at the entrance to the street) and it's in a basement on the left. There's also one in Capel street that's not too bad and a toymaster where Henry st turns into Mary st. Hope this helps and if you've any questions send me a mail. Colm O'Leary -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject: Re: Shoulder patches To NAVYDAZE This may be an even long longer stretch for a thread, for it has nothing to do with ships, but here goes. Back in 1943 or so I had occasion to have my uniform shirt laundered at a civilian laundry. I picked up the nicely laundered and pressed shirt and put it in a dresser drawer. A few days later when all my other shirts were in need of laundering, I donned the one (my last clean one) that had been done by the civilian laundry, and found that the left sleeve had been shredded at the shoulder, and the shoulder patch was missing. I had to borrow a shirt, and the next day I went to the laundry, waving the shredded shirt in righteous indignation. They reimbursed me, of course. A few days later they called and advised me that they had conducted an investigation and found that some young shirt ironing machine operater had literally torn the patch from the shirt, to add it to her collection !!!!! Talk about DUMB !!!!! They fired her immediately, but I never got my patch back. Franklyn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Jeffry Fontaine" Subject: Re: Relics I don't have anything special in my own collection of "stuff" but I my brother Cameron does have a ships flag from the USS Seacat SS-399 that was acquired when he was a dependent in Subic, PI many years ago. This is a small flag with the "seacat" wearing a dixie cup hat and claws unfurled on the attack, quite a menacing looking critter, the flag also includes several Japanese rising sun flags to commemorate the ships she had sunk on war patrol. Interesting as that is, he also has a large Nazi swastika flag that he acquired while in the PI, it came complete with urine stains, not sure if it is Filipino urine or GI urine, but it is definitely stained. My own ship relics are few and very unique after working for several years in the "sub safe/level one" program screening various items off loaded from the decommissioned submarines here at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, I have a couple of odds and ends that could not be cataloged or identified to any specific system that went home with me. I also acquired a small chunk of HY80 hull section from one of the boats that was cut up and some stainless steel welding rod that may come in handy one of these days for something. Regards, Jeffry Fontaine Bremerton, Washington -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Marc Flake Subject: Pit-Road Neosho in-box preview SMMLers, I received my Pit-Road Neosho from Hobbylink Japan today and thought I'd pass along an in-box preview. Let me state right off that no wood was involved in the making of this kit--even though the Hobbylink Japan page describing this kit says it may contain wood. What you get is resin, two injected-plastic sprues and some white metal bits. The hull is crisply cast resin that is a little higher amidships than at the ends (warped). A bowl of hot water will fix this. There are several deck fittings molded onto the deck, including the supports for the midships catwalk. Another bag of resin includes a variety of superstructure parts, gun tubs and two types of funnel. The small bag of white metal parts includes open 5" guns, davits, masts and anchors. The big surprise is a bag with two injected-plastic sprues. One sprue is from the E-9 USN Equipment Group #2. Various small pieces (20mms and searchlights) are used, leaving the rest for the spares box. The other sprue looks like an equipment group for a Japanese ship as it inlcudes three Mitsubishi "Pete's." Also included on the sprue are some merchant ship-type gantries and spars. I can't figure out what I'm supposed to use off this sprue though, unless it's the spars. That's because the instructions are so poor. You basicaly have one exploded view from which to build the whole kit. Not a word of English is used to explain anything. And although a length of brass is included, there are no drawings to indicate what lenghts to cut it into. Another disappointment are the two latice searchlight towers that are cast as resin blocks. The painting instructions are sparse showing the waterline as black and all verticle surfaces painted G-14 (whatever that is). Other paints mentioned are G-28, G8 and PC-13. But as the instructions are in Japanese, it's impossible for me to know what this means. I have no plans of the Neosho to tell you how accurate the model is. But it looks like a Cimmaron-class oiler to me. But something does seem missing -- deck clutter. All the pictures I've seen of this class show a great deal of plumbing or hoses all over the main deck. Of course, all the pictures showing the decks this way were taken during refueling. My question is, are these hoses and plumbing clutter evident during non-refueling periods? I hope to build mine as one of the class named after a Texas river. Go figure. Marc Flake -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume