Subject: SMML VOL 1765 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 12:27:33 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Heller Hood 2: HP-Models Website? 3: Revell S-100 Crew 4: Re: "Models" on the History Channel 5: "Models" on the History Channel 6: Skytrex HMS NewFoundland 7: Re: USS Inchon LPH 12/Windtalkers 8: 1/350 USS Texas 9: Re: Retaining the boneyards.... 10: BB's in movies, and Inchon 11: Polish Translation 12: DD 484 USS Buchanan (Gleaves class) 1949 13: Festival of Sail and Model Contest 14: Ha'aretz - Article -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com Subject: Heller Hood Hi All, I'm looking for opinions on how good this kit is in terms of detail and accuracy...Is it comparable to some of their Kriegsmarine offerings?? Any comments would be appreciated... Regards, John -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Rui Francisco Matos" Subject: HP-Models Website? Hello all, I just wandered if any of you know if HP-Models of Germany has a website? I'm interested in their Type XXIII and Midget Subs and I would like to take a look and them... Any other On-line webstore that stock them would do!! Thanks in advance Rui Matos (aka Skipper) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "David Clark" Subject: Revell S-100 Crew I recently posted a note about the MGM white metal Flak 42 that could be used on the Revell S-100. Further investigation of the Tracks & Troops website reveals that MGM has three sets of crew figures that may be suitable for crewing the Revell S-100. Two are 20mm crew sets in lifejackets and the third set comprises assault pioneers in lifejackets. David -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Mccullough, Vincent" Subject: Re: "Models" on the History Channel Franklyn (and others) Grant Walker was using an endoscope to examine the interior of models in the Rogers Collection at the US Naval Academy. This allows him to examine details that would not be visible otherwise, and that have not been seen since these master modelers decked the models 3oo years ago. However, if what you are looking for is a better way to show details at club meetings, there is an easier and much cheaper way to do it. If you can round up a videocamera and ond of the video projection units (sometimes called beamers) that businesses are using to project computer output these days, you can usually connect the analog output of the video camera (or the digital output if it's a digital cam) into the projection system. Then project the image up on a screen. Most of these cameras have extremely good zoom and autofocus capabilities, so you can easilly project closeups of a model, or demonstration, while the modeler is talking about it. This makes it much more visible to a group than having everyone try to huddle around. WE used this technique at a Washington Ship Model Society meeting a couple of months ago for a demonstration of different soldering and braising techniques, and it worked out fine. I borrowed the projector from my office, and used my own camcorder. No money spent! Vince McCullough Skipper, Washington Ship Model Society -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Paul & Renee Jacobs" <1250man@attbi.com> Subject: "Models" on the History Channel In this show, there was a shot of some 1:1200 scale models used in WW II for pilot training purposes. But in addition to that, the night before this show, there was a show on the History Channel about the raid on Dieppe. In that one, there was video of some German intelligence officers reviewing reconnaissance photos of southern British harbors, and on the table in front of them were several 1:1200/1250 scale ID models, presumably Wiking models (1250 scale). The pictures were clear enough that you could discern that one of the models was of HMS RODNEY or NELSON. Paul Jacobs 1250 SCALE Editor -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Fernando, Yohan" Subject: Skytrex HMS NewFoundland I just bought the Skytrex 1/700 HMS NewFoundland metal kit the other day and received it in the mail. I havn't looked at it too closely, but the casting is of the highest standard. It's the first time I've picked up one of their models and I am very impressed. My question is how easily can I use this kit to represent HMS Ceylon? Both were Colony class ships completed with one less 6" turret. My initial guess is that differences between the two ships would be mostly limited to radar, mast and light AA arrangements (if any). Any information would be appreciated. Thanks Yohan Fernando -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "john fiebke" Subject: Re: USS Inchon LPH 12/Windtalkers >> What is with sinking all of these LPHs. To me they do not represent an actual viable targets, there aren't that many countries with carriers that would be targets. << Perhaps they're sinking them to see how our own carriers react to damage. From what I know, the only actual ship-threatening battle damage modern US carriers have taken was from the flight deck misfires during the Vietnam war and subsequent ordanance explosions. Feel free to correct me, though, as I'm not as familiar with post WWII action. And for another theory/speculation...I would guess that Windtalkers director used Gulf War footage because the film was of a higher quality. The Gulf War footage wouldn't be as grainy I suppose, and therefore might look less like stock footage to the average person. Just a theory. I haven't seen the film. j fiebke -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Russell_Lessard@aigvalic.com Subject: 1/350 USS Texas I am desperately looking for a 1/350 kit for the Texas. I know that there is not currently a model in production, but does anyone out there have a kit they haven't assembled, possibly from a package they purchased a few years ago? There really needs to be a quality model of the Texas in production... I wish Tamiya would take it on. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: stillmo@mb.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: Retaining the boneyards.... I think its based on history repeating itself. The lend lease of 50 destroyers to Great Britain in WWII proved that keeping all those WWI vintage hulls contributed highly to the success of the winning of the Battle of the Atlantic, or at least holding the line. Its much easier to pull a hull out of storage and re vitalize it than to start scratch from keel laying. Ive been to Suisan Bay and seen the old and the new hulls there...sure, a lot will be disposed of eventually, but I saw a lot of AORs, AOs, CGs and FFs that if necessary could be pulled back into service in 90- days or so. Remember too, a lot of the ships left the boneayards to serve under foreign flags, that still serve NATO Navies in the Far East and in the Med today. Theres also the spare parts. How many in service ships have been saved, retained, kept functioning, been repaired from a collision, from parts or even structures from, boneyard ships. The Air Force learned about boneyards and their value 50 years ago. Hell, the B 52s are a prime example----where do they get their spares? The boneyards. True, maybe more than 60 per cent will never see service again, but its that 40 per cent that makes the whole thing worthwhile. The Recommissioned IOWAs got a lot of their spare parts from the boneyards, as did the Vietnam era ships. Thats my so very humble opinion, for what its worth. RD Bean, USN enthusiast -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: O'Connor Subject: BB's in movies, and Inchon I think it's sad to see the old Inchon bite the dust, but time moves on. As Okinowa slid beneath the waves, at least she died doing something in service of her country, as probably will Inchon. Too bad more don't meet thier doom that way, rather than to breakers. As for the movie, the first trailer I saw on TV showed a 50-star US flag, not a 48 as proper for WWll. That was my first indicator that something was wrong. So, it does not surprise me they used 90's footage for the WWll scenes. But that said, I have not seen the movie, so I will reserve judgement. It all harkens back the the overused F9F rampstrike footage whenever a film maker wants to represent a carrierborne crash. You'd think that with all the CG and modeling talents out there, they would at least try to update and acurize a bit- but then there is the fact of the ignorance of the moviegoing public to consider- most have not a clue...AS I said- the flag was wrong, and my 14 year old son saw it before I did-thank God he's a stickler for historical accuracy. I try not to fret about it too much, and go for the entertainment value rather than historic- I did not see the PH movie either- the love story interrupted by a war. The best I saw was Blackhawk Down- I was tired when I left that one-and it seemed real. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: nd.ward@virgin.net Subject: Polish Translation Can anyone help? I'm making the Mirage 1/400 'KASZUB', and the colours defeat me, they are named in Polish, but attempts to use online translators produce no results at all. Words that seem to indicate colours are: Poklady - brazowy Burty - jasnoszare Ponizej pasa linii wodnej - minii-brazowoczerwony Wnetrza lodzi - biale Oslony reling jasnoszare The model itself is quite good not only being sold as the Polish torpedo boat, but also as the German Kaisermarine V106, the difference being that the Polish Ships have less armament, catered for by one sprue being different. I also have the 'Wicher' and 'Burza', Polish Destroyers of the late 30's in 1/400. Anyone else had a go at these? Comments? Accuracy? Thanks in advance Dave Ward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Michael Taylor" Subject: DD 484 USS Buchanan (Gleaves class) 1949 Hi List, I'm doing a US Buchanan in it's 1949 fit-as transferred to Turkey. Unfortunately I can find no photos of the ship either online or in the Classic Warships book. I was wondering if anyone would know what the ship looked like at the time of transfer-what weapons were fitted, what radar etc. Help! I need to ship it by August 10th. Thanks all-keep up the good work...Mike T -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Kerry Jang Subject: Festival of Sail and Model Contest Hi Everyone, The Tall Ships will be in Richmond, BC (just outside of Vancouver) in August. This is their only Canadian stop in the Westcoast. The info for the event can be found at: http://www.richmondtallships.ca Accompanying the tall ships is a model show and contest. Details of the contest and show (you can enter the compeition or just display!) is at: http://www.NorthernStarMall.com All kinds of models are needed, not just sailing ships! Check it out. The judges for the show include John McKay -- yes, the author and draughtsman of several of our favourite books (Anatomy of a Ship Series) like Pandora, Bounty, Victory, Aggassiz.... not to mention doing a host of drawings for many, many books... It should be a big event, and the model show as well. Hope to see and meet some of you there. Kerry -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject: Ha'aretz - Article http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=176908&contrassID=1&amp;subContrassID=5&amp;sbSubContrassID=0&amp;listSrc=Y -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume