Subject: SMML VOL 1773 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:35:44 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Skytrex HMS NewFoundland 2: Re: Artificial Reefs 3: Re: Endoscopes 4: Re: HMS Nairana 5: Re: HP Invincible 1909 kit 6: Sinking ships (USS Spiegel) 7: Hellenic Ships 8: Cockpit Canopies 9: Ship Scrapping 10: Re: aircraft canopy painting - tips please? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "John Rodriguez Asti" Subject: Re: Skytrex HMS NewFoundland Yohan Fernando wrote: >> I just bought the Skytrex 1/700 HMS NewFoundland metal kit the other day and received it in the mail. I havn't looked at it too closely, but the casting is of the highest standard. It's the first time I've picked up one of their models and I am very impressed. My question is how easily can I use this kit to represent HMS Ceylon? Both were Colony class ships completed with one less 6" turret. My initial guess is that differences between the two ships would be mostly limited to radar, mast and light AA arrangements (if any). Any information would be appreciated. << Dear Yohan: I have some information, phptographs and drawings of both ships that can be of your utility. If you wish, contact me off the list to my e-mail. Regards, John Rodriguez Asti Lima, Peru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Clive Lawford" Subject: Re: Artificial Reefs Hi All, For further information about artificial reefs you should have a look at the very interesting site for the Artificial Reef Society of British Columbia at http://www.artificialreef.bc.ca/. Best regards, Clive. 44ft Motor Lifeboats http://home.online.no/~lawford/xrl/xrl.htm Ramsgate Lifeboat http://home.online.no/~lawford/rl/rl.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject: Re: Endoscopes To Victor Baca Endoscopes are thoroughly cleaned and sterilized after every use, at least in the USA. The same goes for any medical equipment or hardware. That's one positive result from malpractise suits. I'll pass your suggestion about borescopes to the investigation committee. Thanks. Franklyn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Ian Hanratty" Subject: Re: HMS Nairana Hi Chris I have read the book Bring back my Stringbag and I agree with you its a good read. I am currently reading Alone On A Wide Wide Sea by E.E.Barringer (another ex sqn co) which deals with the operation of No 835 N.A.S. including their time on HMS Nairana. on the Atlantic and Russian convoys. Recently at my place of work which is the Museum of Flight at East Fortune in East Lothian Scotland, we where given the original ships plaque of HMS Nairana, and we are hoping to put this on Display with models of the Aircraft and the Ship. This is the reason why I am looking for drawings of the ship to build a model for this display. again many thanks. Ian Hanratty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Ken Hoolihan" Subject: Re: HP Invincible 1909 kit John, I have this kit and can comment on one glaring innaccuracy. All 4 of the 12" turrets in the kit are of the same shape. According to plans in RA Burts book (and other plans I have), the two amidships wing turrets had quite a different shape from the fore and aft turrets. This will take some scratchbuilding to fix. I have not checked other aspects of the kit for accuracy but am not optimistic. Ken Hoolihan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "john fiebke" Subject: Sinking ships (USS Spiegel) >> Exactly. If you can find one of the pieces about the recent sinking of the ex-USS Spiegel Grove as an artificial reef, it might get into the expense of removing huge quantities of asbestos, lube oil, and other potential HAZMAT from the hulk. It literally cost millions of dollars to ready the ship for sinking. << So basically we'll spend millions of dollars to sink a ship, but not to keep one...The USS Cabot...afloat. john (No offense to the divers among us.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: vorwoldt@flash.net (vorwoldt) Subject: Hellenic Ships I just returned from New York city where I was able to see the exhibit, "The Greeks and the Sea, Hellenic Ships from Ancient Times Through the 20th Centrury". There are 17 models, including the sheds used to house the triremes. The earliest ships are a Minoan one and a Theran one from Santorini(1700 - 1400 BC. Very fine models and a nice catalog for just $20. They will be on exhibit at The Foundation for Hellenic Culture, 7 West 57th Street, Suite 1, New York, NY. 9:30 - 5:00, M - F through Sept. 30. The models com from the Hellenic Maritime Museum in Piraeus. I especially liked the Byzantine dromon complete with different catapults and equipment for shooting "Greek fire". Jim Vorwoldt, S.J. Chicago -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "John Rule" Subject: Cockpit Canopies >> I use a product called micro mask it is a blue tinted liquid you paint on all over the canopy and let dry and the very careful with an exacto cut around the areas you want painted and remove the thin film in these areas leaving the rest in place ,spry on your color and let dry and the with the tip of your exacto knife lift and remove the remaining film over the clear areas and voila , works very well I use it on my bridge windows when I wish to paint in stuff like windshield wipes and etc. << I trust we are not talking about 1:700 scale here. If you can do all that in 1:700 scale, I'd like to know how you model the pilot, his cockpit interior and especially the pilot's harness. The sharp edge of my exacto blades are thicker than the cockpit framing on most 1:700 scale aircraft. Happy modelling,. John -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Wilgossett@aol.com Subject: Ship Scrapping To All, >> If you want to read about the difficulties of scrapping ships here in the US check out this site. The Baltimore Sun won a Pulitzer or something for this one in 1998. << How ironic. Just earlier today I was sent the following website by a friend and Mr. Ellis is memorialized at that site. I figured that he had died while scrapping the Coral Sea, not sent to prison for it! Different perspectives........ http://www.usscoralsea.net/pages/picsexcv43.html The site has maybe 100 or so pictures of the Coral Sea being scrapped over several years and should give everyone some idea of what is involved. Plus a great series of photos showing a process usually never seen by most of us. Will Gossett -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: aircraft canopy painting - tips please? Concur with the use of light blue for the canopies. As for adding the canopy frames, get a 0.5mm mechanical pencil and apply them with that. At that scale, it will appear to match the aircraft paint color. Quick and easy, and the way I did it on my 1/700 CV-6 air wing; good enough for a 3rd at the IPMS Nationals. Best, John Snyder White Ensign Models http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume