Subject: SMML VOL 1788 Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 00:39:05 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Merchant Ship Colors and House Logos 2: Re: kursk sub disaster 3: Re: Revell BURLEIGH/HAWAIIAN PILOT 4: Re: Merchant Ship Colors and House Logos 5: Re: Corsair 6: 1788 7: Oil canning 8: USS San Antonio -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information 1: Re: IPMS Get-together on Friday Night? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Michael London" Subject: Merchant Ship Colors and House Logos While I do not know a source of suitable decals an excellent reference that you may still find on the second-hand market is Colin Stewart's "Flags, Funnels and Hull Colours". First published in 1953 my own particular copy is a third impression dated 1963. The illustrations are all in color and list over 1,000 companies together with their funnel, hull colors, and house flags. Another good reference would be Jane's Merchant Ships by E.C. Talbot-Booth. The WW 2 editions have all the funnel colors illustrated in b/w and information on particular hull colors for some. I imagine that if available these latter books would be very pricey! Michael London -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Andrew Jones" Subject: Re: kursk sub disaster $1.50 thoughts. hhmmmmm its called depreciation... once a thought comes out of my head it is automatically depreciated cuz it aint worth much, lol -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: Revell BURLEIGH/HAWAIIAN PILOT >> By the way, is the Burleigh basically the same mold as the C-3 Hawaiian Pilot freighter? I wonder if they adapted the mold like they did with the Mission Capistrano oiler / Merchant tanker kits? << Hi Rod, Yep. I built 'em both as a kid (more years ago than I care to remember--and that's not an invitation for you to pipe up, Shane!). Best, John Snyder White Ensign Models http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/ John, don't you mean more years ago than you CAN remember? (you didn't say I couldn't pipe up) Lorna -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Wes Klinkhammer" Subject: Re: Merchant Ship Colors and House Logos From: "Katz, Gene S" >> There was also a Brit pocket-size publication in the 50s and 60s called "The Observer's Book of Ships" which showed funnel colors and such for Brit steamships. << Dear Mr. Katz, I searched eBay and found the book you refer to at these links: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1546796722 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1545838920 If the links fail try to search: Observer's Book of Ships Thanks, Wes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "TIMOTHY BROOKS" Subject: Re: Corsair >> I don't know anything about dates, but Glenco Models has been promising a model of the Corsair for a couple of years now. << That Glencoe reissue would be of the Ideal Models kits available in the late 50's and early 60's. Never seen one, but they show up on ebay from time to time, seem to go around $100. Regarding the thread on the stern-launch torpedo boats, I seem to recall that the USN pre-PT's in the 20's used this system, as well as the Italian MAS and a British version MTB. There is a 1/72 kit around of a Russian WWII Tupolev G-5 which is of this type. Molded of funny plastic, includes photoetch, useless instructions. Sells on ebay for $40 or so, probably available through other sources, probably for less. Tim Brooks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "David Clark" Subject: 1788 As this is Vol 1788 (I hope), I would like to acknowledge the voyage of the First Fleet that conveyed the first European settlers/invaders to Australia. David -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Robert Lockie" Subject: Oil canning This is an issue I have considered for some time, albeit without knowing what it was called. It is one of the reasons why I collect (I should say "build" but you know how it is) models of ships with armoured hulls where such effects are not apparent. However, it has put me off modern vessels, although being interested in solving problems of this type, I can suggest a possible solution. I have not tried it for this application and I do not say that it would be easy, but here goes. First, you need to know where the frames are. I suspect that this will require a drawing of the hull which shows them, unless you are sufficiently keen to draw your own from photos. Don't forget to allow for the fact that the hull is not in a single plane. Then transfer the lines of the frames to the hull itself. Now for the fun part. Make up a series of masks from metal sheet (brass seems the best option) with rectangular holes the size of the gaps between the frames. Hold or tape these to the hull in the appropriate locations and using a curved scalpel blade (not too small a radius or it will make too deep a depression), scrape along in both vertical and horizontal direction to create the depression. Repeat for all the other parts of the hull&.. Alternatively, it might work to use sandpaper but make sure any scratches are removed before shifting the mask. I never said it was easy but I think it would work. Try it on an old one first however! Robert Lockie Swindon UK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: MIKE.LEONARD@customs.treas.gov Subject: USS San Antonio Construction Begins on LPD 17 Advanced Enclosed Mast/Sensor By Kendall King, Naval Sea Systems Command Public Affairs NEW ORLEANS (NNS) -- Construction has started on the Advanced Enclosed Mast/Sensors (AEM/S) that will give the San Antonio-class (LPD 17) of amphibious transport dock ships their distinctive appearance. The LPD 17 shipbuilding team is assembling what are the largest composite structures to be installed on U.S. Navy steel ships. Aptly named, the structures will serve a dual-purpose, as both mast and sensor aboard the future USS San Antonio. First, the two masts fully enclose essential radar and communications antennas, reducing the wear and tear from weather and sea spray. In addition, as demonstrated on USS Arthur W. Radford's (DD 968) successful test of one AEM/S, personnel can safely go aloft under extreme weather conditions that currently prohibit "man aloft" operations. Second, the new masts use an advanced composite hybrid frequency selective surface that allows own ship radar and communication signals to pass through. At the same time, this covering essentially acts as a filter to block noise or other frequencies from off ship sources that might interfere with own ship's emissions. By reducing false targets and limiting signal loss, LPD 17's sensors and communications systems will demonstrate improved performance. Designed to launch landing forces from over-the-horizon, the LPD 17-class will support conventional and air cushion landing craft, helicopters and the tilt rotor MV-22 Osprey, and the Marine Corps' new Advanced Amphibious Assault Vehicle (AAAV). With a length of 684 feet, a beam of 105 feet, and a displacement of more than 25,000 tons, the San Antonio-class will improve the future capabilities of Navy/Marine Corps expeditionary warfare forces. Scheduled for delivery in November 2004, the new amphibious transport docks will be easy to recognize with the Advanced Enclosed Mast/Sensor systems highlighting their profiles. For more information on LPD 17, go to www.lpd17.navsea.navy.mil. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: AAA Hobby Subject: Re: IPMS Get-together on Friday Night? >> James Corley posted informaton regarding the IPMS Get Together/Harbor Tour - including the Friday night date. Let me throw a monkey-wrench into the works early on; before the date gets cast in Jello. Friday night will be judging. << Forgot about that. I suggested Friday ONLY because the boat said they were tentatively chartered for Thursday evening. Friday or Thursday afternoon would work for me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume