Subject: SMML VOL 1795 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 13:33:10 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Great Eastern 2: USS Saratoga 3: Bretagne class BBs 4: Re: Here Comes the Navy - VCR Alert 5: Imperial Russian Ship of the Line "God's Predictive?" 6: Jane's Fighting Ships of WWI 7: Re: C-3 Hull/USS Tangier 8: amusing aspects of micromodeling 9: A call for help -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information 1: Things to do in and Near Virginia Beach 2: Re: IPMS Attendees 4 July 02 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Pieter Cornelissen Subject: Re: Great Eastern >> By coincidence I came across this site a week or so ago looking for information about the Schrieber 1:200 card model of her, but the site also has a wealth of pictures, history and a review of the Revell model. << Thanks David, The reviews seem to indicate that it is nice enough to throw money at. Now I only have to find time and space to build it. I'll post an 'in box review' once I've checked the kit out. Cheers, Pieter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Glenn and Kelly Neklason" Subject: USS Saratoga Hi All Can anyone point me in the direction of some good photos of the USS Saratoga (CV-60) as she appeared when she was built? Also some information on her airwing(s) in the late '50's would be appreciated. Thank you, Glenn E. Neklason -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Bruno Gire" Subject: Bretagne class BBs The best source ever on the subject is Robert Dumas/ Jean Guiglini's book, first published in 1980 and -for long- out of print. You may be interested to know of a young (three years) french bimonthly called "Marine et Histoire". This editor (Lela Presse) is publishing some interesting books on the French Navy too. They published a fine one on the "Le Hardi"" class of prewar destroyers. In the 12th issue (june 2002) of "Marine et Histoire", they gave us the titles planned for 2002-2003: among these are: - a plastic / resin kit of French Aircraft carrier Bearn (as in 1939) Scale : 1/400, due to publication by next October. - a book on the Duquesne and Tourville (prewar cruisers), probably -IMO- an expended version, by the same author of the book already published by a Polish editor - a book on "The 23500t battleships of the Bretagne class", by Robert Dumas. Is it a reprint or a rework of the 1980 book ? Lets wait and see... Their e-mail is: lela.presse@wanadoo.fr You may also contact me off line for more data/ plans of Bretagne class. Bruno Gire Bordeaux, France -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Keith Bender" Subject: Re: Here Comes the Navy - VCR Alert Hi SMMLies, Well that's fine about "Here Comes The Navy" but when will they ever put it on video or DVD? Come people who run the movie outfit, lets get with the program and put it out for us. I can name a dozen movies I've seen on the shelf and thought who would ever watch it but I guess someone does. so put out what we want, right? There's my 2 cents, KTB -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Joel Labow Subject: Imperial Russian Ship of the Line "God's Predictive?" I have seen a number of advertisements for this kit...it appears to be a two-decked ship of the line. The English translation of the ship's name is rather odd, however. Are there any Russian linguists on the list who might shed any light about this ship's 'real' name? Joel Labow -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Henry Blecha Subject: Jane's Fighting Ships of WWI Hi all I recently bought the book, Jane's Fighting Ships of WWI at Barnes and Noble. The original sale price of $16 was marked down an additional 60%, so the final cost was like $7 including sales tax. Now that I consider a good buy. I got the book at the Pasadena, CA B&N store. It's possible other B&N stores may offer the same sale price. At least now I can track the discussions on SMML relating to ships of WWI. If you don't have one, now is the time to see if it is still available. v/r Henry Blecha -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: PaulShip37@aol.com Subject: Re: C-3 Hull/USS Tangier Years ago I converted a Revell Hawaiian Pilot into a model of my uncle Don's WW2 ship,USS Pelias, a submarine tender he was stationed on from 1941-46. A conversion of the Revell model to the Tangier would be reasonably straightforward using sheet styrene and parts from a Revell Pine Island. The navy converted a lot of C-3's into many variations on a theme. Ralph, are you planning to build this model yourself? Perhaps I can help you through a bit of good fortune I had a few months ago. There is a toy collectors show that takes place here in Toledo, Ohio about 4 times a year. Vendors from across the country sell here. Most of it is scale model cars, but some ship models also show up. The last show taught me the true meaning of "stopped dead in his tracks." Walking along one row of vendors I spotted an unbuilt Hawaiian Pilot model in a zip lock bag (no box or instructions, small parts missing) for $2.00. I stopped dead in my tracks. Needless to say, I bought it and thanked the man for bringing it. (actually I think I blessed him) If you think you could use it, I'd sell it to you for your friend's project for $3.00 (standard wholesale to retail mark up). Contact me off line and I'll describe the small parts that are missing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: PaulShip37@aol.com Subject: amusing aspects of micromodeling And now for something completely different... Years ago, when I was single and had time, money and good eyesight, I used to scratchbuild 1:384 scale USN ships from the old Weiswesser plans. I was finishing a USS Detroit when I realized I needed to build a Kingfisher float plane for one of the catapults for the model to look right. (back then, a relatively simple task, take a piece of sprue/runner and file away till it looked like a Kingfisher fuselage. oh, to be young again...) Finishing the main float at about 3AM, the float and fuselage did the predictable. As I attempted to glue them together they "went ballistic." At that time I believed I was a seasoned "lost part" finder. I too got out the flashlight and swept the floor with it like the opposing forces in the night battles off Guadalcanal. No luck this time, nor the next day when I was fully awake. Being very young I simply scratchbuilt another Kingfisher that next night. A week later I found the first Kingfisher, glued to the tongue of one of the shoes I had been wearing that night. (being young, I finished it and put it on the 2nd catapult...) On another occasion, I later found a missing 5" gun housing in the cuff of the pants I was wearing (there's a fashion statement, how old do you have to be to remember when ALL pants had cuffs)? At this point I would like to suggest a possible ongoing thread to parallel the one on micromodeling. Namely: The immutable laws/physics of modeling. I will postulate Paul's First Law ; " The small size, large cost and critical nature of a part is directly proportional to the likelihood it will be sucked into a Black Hole and never be seen again." (corollary , "walk in a man's shoes for a week before giving up on a Kingfisher.") -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Sab1156@aol.com Subject: A call for help I have an original "Groeners Merchantfleets of the world 1941. It was on board of one of the german subs in Japan and I got it from a friend in Japan many years ago! It is falling now apart and needs repairs and new binding! Does anybody knows a bookstore,how does such type of repairs? Thanks in advance. Detlef Hartwig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Mark Krumrey" Subject: Things to do in and Near Virginia Beach If I could add one more "attraction" in Norfolk. I would recommend the MacArther Museum. It is a fascinating look into this great generals life. Many artifacts, and the mosoleum which contains the remains of the General and his wife. Well worth the visit. Mark Krumrey New Richmond WI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Darren Subject: Re: IPMS Attendees 4 July 02 >> Now are you happy Darren your not last Mike is. This is all a Canadian plot to declare war on the USA and then surrender and ask for a couple of hundred billion dollars in war damages! << Better, but it would be easier to read if you put comma's or semi-colons between the names. I'm getting a little confused. Mike deserves to be last anyway. He's only a Captain. So, what, nobody wants to respond to my query re: the get together? WHAT ARE WE DOING???? And yes, it is a plot, but we don't want war (we already beat you once), we just want the cash. Darren -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume