Subject: SMML VOL 1816 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:58:54 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Churchill Upgrade 2: Re: Small parts and carpets 3: HP-Models HMS Courageous Instructions 4: Frigate & Corvette 5: Re: What is a Cruiser? 6: Re: Floating Crane "Langer Heinrich" 7: DLGs to Cruisers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Model Ship Journal Update and Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Devin J. Poore" Subject: Re: Churchill Upgrade >> ..., A SELF-SERVICE LAUNDRY, modifications to the Hazardous Materials Center, and ... << I wonder if this means "use the laundry if you want" or "now you have to do all of your own laundry"? Man, if on top of the 16-18 hour work days, GQ's, and other nonsense, I would have had to do my own laundry while I was in, I think I would have just freakin' snapped. Devin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Michael London" Subject: Re: Small parts and carpets Thank you Jim Warsher for suggesting 'dustbuster'+ nylon stocking for retrieving small parts from carpet. I work in 1:1200 and find that once it's dropped it's gone for good. Now I won't have to shave my carpet! Michael London ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Christopher J. Tadanier" Subject: HP-Models HMS Courageous Instructions Hello All, I recently purchased HP-Modells 1/700 HMS Courageous kit, which arrived without instructions. Would anyone be willing to scan/photocopy the instructions from their kit for me? Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Terry Wiltshire Subject: Frigate & Corvette >> suppose a frigate & corvette could be next on the hard to define lists! << That's easy. A Corvette is a little Frigate. Terry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Joel Labow Subject: Re: What is a Cruiser? Lars Scharff wrote: >> Are in this case the Arleigh Burkes and the Kongos, perhaps also the Kidds and Sovremennyis, cruisers? No modern ship has a classic armoured belt, but some has armour. Are the old classifications still valid? Or are the recent classifications mostly political (budget)? << Looking for doctrinal purity in warship classification (or ship naming, for that matter) these days is probably a waste of time. Certainly the 'political considerations' in the decision to upgrade larger USN DLGs to CGs were based more on Navy careerism than funding. In a nutshell, a surface line officer needs a major command (carrier, battleship or cruiser) to be a serious contender for flag rank. While the larger amphibious ships and replenishment ships are technically major commands they don't have the luster of the traditional major warships. By Navy regs only pilots or NFOs can command carriers, and hence with the decommissioning of the BBs, CLGs, CGN etc. the surface community was left with pretty slim pickings for major commands...and the unpalatable prospect of most future admirals coming from the aviation and submarine communities. Upgrading the larger DLGs to cruisers, whatever the prestige and fiscal impact, certainly helped the surface navy's career prospects. I still contend that the Ticonderoga class fit better with traditional cruisers than with escort vessels, but I suspect that Navy career needs played a part in that decision as well. One step below all the captains vying for flag rank are the commanders working towards promotion to captain. Once again, in the USN a 'commander command'...i.e. a DD, DDG, FFG etc. is necessary for promotion to captain. The needs of this group of officers militate against willy-nilly making the Arleigh Burkes and Spruance/Kidds cruisers. What a tangled web we weave... Joel Labow ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: NAVYDAZE@aol.com Subject: Re: Floating Crane "Langer Heinrich" Speaking of floating cranes, anyone know what happened to the floating crane at the ex-Long Beach Naval Shipyard. It was a war prize from Germany and towed across the ocean to Long Beach. I remember it as a kid and even as late as the 1980's. I know there was a TV piece done on it as it had a crews quartes with a lot of the compartment tags written in German. I was a big monster I can say that. I remember later on it was painted red, white and blue. Anyone know or hear of it? Mike - NAVYDAZE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Bruce Ross" Subject: DLGs to Cruisers I was aboard USS Preble DLG-15 when the designations changed. What we were told was that because our ship class was shorter by about 20 feet and that we were lighter that we qualified as a DDG. Didn't matter that we had the same capabilities as the Belknaps! I personally think it was just a good clean breakpoint. So we got a canvas dodger for the brow that declared "Smallest Cruiser in the Pacific!" Bruce Ross USS Preble DLG-15/DDG-46 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: Model Ship Journal Update and Thanks I was catching up on weeks of unread SMMLs and wanted to thank you for your kind comments about Model Ship Journal. The Summer 2002 issue of MSJ shipped out two weeks ago and should be arriving in mailboxes now. If you prefer to purchase at hobby shops, we have many new dealers purchasing from our distributors. If your local hobby retailer doesn't carry MSJ, let me know and I'll get him on-board. Thanks also to our loyal readers in New Zealand and Australia, I'm glad you enjoy reading our magazine--we'll keep them coming! I'll be searching for a dealer/distributor in your area so hopefully you won't need to wait any longer than you need to for your copies of MSJ. We are discussing the matter with a reputable distributor in your area and hopefully will be able to set up distribution in the South Pacific soon. We also just signed on with a major distributor handling mainstream independent booksellers in the United States. The magazines will be on their shelves by the time this post shows up on SMML. Please note that we've been moving our home/office/shops to larger quarters during the past month and are finishing-off by moving the phone lines today. The change should be transparent, but you may experience a delay for a few hours while telco sets up the new lines. Our e-mail and post office box address will remain the same and our phone and Fax numbers will also remain unchanged. And, because we've been receiving a large volume of calls on our phones, I've set up a new system whereby your call will be handled more efficiently than ever before. Thanks again for the kind comments about Model Ship Journal on SMML. May your models gather no dust, Victor Baca Editor & Publisher MODEL SHIP JOURNAL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume