Subject: SMML VOL 1822 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:28:07 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: 1:700 Destroyer Project and the Hornet's Nest 2: Ship's Laundry 3: Message to Steve Wiper 4: Re: SSN Laundry 5: PT-109 question? 6: Samuel Eliot Morison books 7: Re: 1/700 scale destroyer project ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information 1: WI MARITIME MUSEUM MODEL SHIP CONTEST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Great prices for WSW/B-Resina kits 2: Model ship kits for sale ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: EDWARD GRUNE Subject: 1:700 Destroyer Project and the Hornet's Nest Well Darren, the US of A Navy and the Tin Can Sailors Association determined that the centenniary year was 2002 - and tied it to the commissioning of the Bainbridge (TDB-1/DD-1) in November of 1902. Late in her career, the Bainbridge and sisters were designated DDs, with the ex-TBD modifier). Early in the project I contacted the Tin Can Sailors about using their centennial logo. They licensed its use to us. I sort of have hopes that I can arrange to donate the collection to a museum destroyer - if I can talk the owners of the separate models out of them. Ed ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Schiefet@cs.com Subject: Ship's Laundry >> On the old fram I destroyers I was on when underway it was wash in salt water and rinse once (sparingly) in fresh water. .... << As an E-4 and E-5, I served on two FRAMs & the Garcia (DE) in the 60's & 70's. I guess we were spoiled as we had a laundry department which did our laundry and compartment cleaners who sorted the returned laundry and tossed (most of) it on our bunks. Laundry was done in fresh water as best I can remember. Everytime we had Evap problems or were doing heavy steaming, the laundry slowed down. This happened frequently on the FRAM's (especially in the Tonkin Gulf) and only twice on the Greasy G. Once we were in Gitmo, so we took our laundry to the base laundry and got it back a couple of days later and once underway when I recall getting a butt chewing for washing my socks in the sink. On the Garcia, in the North Atlantic, we could use the presses in the laundry between 6:30 and 7:45 PM underway to press our uniforms, including dungarees (which was highly encouraged). Steve Pelham, NH ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Michael J. D'Silva" Subject: Message to Steve Wiper Hi Steve, Any plans to release the 1/700 HMS Agincourt again? Thanks, Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "" Subject: Re: SSN Laundry Regarding nuclear submarine laundry, we used regular potable water, provided the distillation plant was not inoperative. When it broke down, showers and laundry were immediately secured to preserve potable water-and the coners (especially the Sonar Techs) would immediately start whining about it. We had one washing machine and one dryer. Laundry days were scheduled by division (although if no one was using, you could wash no matter what division you were in), if it was a big division like Machinery, one person would be designated the laundry queen, you'd leave your bag of clothes with him, he'd wash and dry and get em back to you. Scott Weeks MM(Nuclear)2/SS, USS Aspro SSN-648, USS Tunny SSN-682 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Pwesty" Subject: PT-109 question? Hi List I was just wondering with the finding of PT-109 here a few week ago. I was just wondering on how many crew members form the boat are still alive, I know that there are 4 dead? Anybody know for sure. Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Stephen C. Gustafson" Subject: Samuel Eliot Morison books The latest catalog from Edward R. Hamilton, Bookseller lists all 15 volumes of S.E. Morison's History of United States Naval Operations in World War II at $12.95 each. If you don't receive the printed catalog you can search it on their web site at www.edwardrhamilton.com I paid about $20 - $22 each for mine a few years ago and wouldn't trade them for anything. They are a must for the library. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: royrichey@att.net Subject: Re: 1/700 scale destroyer project You are of course referring to the USS Bainbridge (DD-1) being the 3rd destroyer of her class commissioned. Roy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Kurt Van Dahm Subject: WI MARITIME MUSEUM MODEL SHIP CONTEST 26TH ANNUAL WISCONSIN MARITIME MUSEUM’S MODEL SHIPS AND BOATS CONTEST – AUGUST 10 & 11, 2002 The Wisconsin Maritime Museum’s 26th Annual Model Ships and Boats Contest sponsored by Seaway’s Ships In Scale Magazine will be held on Saturday, August 10 and Sunday, August 11, 2002 at the Wisconsin Maritime Museum in Manitowoc, WI. Pre-registration is required for the Modeler’s Symposium, Awards Banquet and contest entries as there is limited space and models not pre-registered by August 1, 2002 will be accepted only as space is available basis. Registration for the Awards Banquet must be done by August 1, 2002. The check in for model entries is from August 1, 2002 till no later than noon on Saturday, August 10, 2002. Winners will be announced Saturday evening at the Awards Banquet to be held at the Manitowoc Elks Lodge. The Modeler’s Symposium will be held on Saturday afternoon from 1 PM until 4 PM in the Badger Room at the Inn on Maritime Bay (next door to the Museum). Speakers at the Saturday afternoon symposium will be noted miniaturist Gus Agustin who will show how he makes his magnificent, lifelike miniature flags, Tim Riggs will show how to sharpen our modeling tools and Steve Wheeler who will show a neat method of photo etching at home without having to make photographic negatives. Gus and Tim are members of the Midwest Model Shipwrights from the suburban Chicago area and Steve hails from Colorado. Registration for this event is included for all contest entrants. Others are very welcome to attend but must pay a $7 fee. Saturday evening’s Awards Banquet at the Manitowoc Elks Club (just north of the Museum on the lakefront) will feature a family style dinner followed by the presentation of the awards. Publisher Clayton Feldman, MD, will present the Seaway’s Ships In Scale Best of Show Award. Sunday morning and early afternoon features an informal, Modeler's Roundtable where you can question Saturday’s presenters and your fellow modelers about anything related to ship models from 10 AM till about 3 PM. The Modeler's Choice and People's Choice awards are presented at 3 PM on Sunday concluding the event. For those who arrive early, we will tour the Museums construction areas on Friday evening from 7 to 8 PM. The Museum is currently being doubled in size to accommodate some great new exhibits and to give us more room for our contest and symposium. Following the construction tour we will adjourn to Richard Young's new workshop just around the corner from the museum to see his new digs from 8 to 9 PM. Contact Registrar Molly Biddle at the museum for registration forms. The e-mail is maritime@lakefield.net Phone is (920) 684-0218 and the address is Wisconsin Maritime Museum, 75 Maritime Drive, Manitowoc, WI 54220. If you plan to attend I suggest you make motel reservations soon as they fill up real quick. Also, note that models registered after August 1, 2002 will be on a space available basis so register both you and your models early to guarantee a spot. Take care, Kurt Van Dahm Contest Chairman ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: rms Subject: Great prices for WSW/B-Resina kits Please check out our web site for great prices on all WSW and B-Resina 1/700 resin ship kits and accessories: www.wic.net/~rms/ New kits not on the web site: WSW 700-19; Potemkin, Russian battleship, 1905 $46.00 (okay, this one is listed, but I've lowered the price) WSW 700-42; Schleswig-Holstein, German predreadnought battleship, 1939 $46.00 Also, the merchant ship set (1 cargo ship, 1 oiler, 2 tugs) is listed on the accessories page (that is, not on the ship page). And finally, all of the accessoires listed at $6.50 have been reduced in price to $6.00. I will fax a purchase order to WSW in Germany on Wednesday, 24 July 2002. Questions/orders? Please contact me off list: rms@wic.net Hope you are having a great weekend! Lisa D. Norman / aka Rocky Mountain Shipyard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Rod Dauteuil" Subject: Model ship kits for sale Hello SMMLies, I'm selling the model kits listed below. I have lots of aircraft and vehicles for sale, but I'm offering these ship kits to SMML members on a first come first serve basis. If you agree to buy a kit, I'll hold it aside for 10 days for payment. After that, it goes to either the next in line, or Ebay. No exceptions, no fooling around waiting for payment. All postage (US and International) to be determined by zone and weight. Delivery Confirmation is used, and insurance is extra. If anybody's interested in the non-ship models, drop me a line. Thanks, Rod. Revell: USS New Jersey, 1/720, modernized, good box, instructions, decals. $12. USS Missouri, 1/535, WWII, good box, instructions, decals, $7. USS Enterprise (1) CVN65, 1972, OK box, good instructions, decals, hull halves assembled, $10. USS Enterprise (2) CVN65, 1972, poor box, OK instructions, no decals, missing all F4 fighters. No assembly. $8. RMS Titanic, 1/570, MIFSB, $10. USS Saipan Assault Carrier, 1/720, 1979, good box, instructions, decals. All parts still bagged inside. $12. USS Skipjack, 1/230, MIFSB, $7. Arii USS New Jersey, 1/600, modernized, good box, instructions, decals. $12. USS New York (LA class SSBN). 2 kits in 1, W/L + full hull + 2 bases. 1/700, good box, instructions, decals. $10. Lee USS Wisconsin, 1/600, modernized, good box, instructions, decals. $12. (Same kit as the ARII USS NJ) Matchbox USS Arizona, 1/720, good box, instructions (no decals ever issued with kit). Comes with Toms's PEB set #720, Early WWII US BB. $12. Lindberg Sea Harvest Tuna Clipper. 1964. Note this is not the large tuna clipper presently available. 1/156 scale, 5 inches, stem to stern. Good box and instructions. Decals slightly yellowed. $15. Glencoe USS Oregon, 1/226, good box, instructions, decals. $20 Airfix Vosper MTB, 1/72, 1989, good box, instructions, decals, flags. $10. Heller U boat, 1/400 recent issue, good box, instructions, decals. $5.00 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume