Subject: SMML VOL 1823 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:59:40 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Ship's Laundry 2: Ship's Laundry 3: Re: SSN Laundry 4: Re: Samuel Eliot Morison books 5: Titanic Nottingham 6: Re: Plans for HMAS Swan (DE50) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: NAVYDAZE@aol.com Subject: Re: Ship's Laundry Steve, Pressed dungarees?? Well, very rarely on the "Hawk" but we had to do them ourselves with a regular old fashion ironing board - our problem with the laundry was that the steam catapults took all the fresh water and we were usually on "water hours" - even the damn coffee would taste salty. Michael Donegan NAVYDAZE Naval & Aviation Artist http://www.navydaze.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Jim Johnson" Subject: Ship's Laundry While on the USS America (CVA-66) back in the 60's, our laundry was done with fresh water. We had new 5 effect vacuum evaperators that worked quite well. We had some equipment in the auxilliary machinery spaces and knew the guys that ran the evaps. Sometimes they were running the water into the bilges because they didn't have anywhere to put it. We were threatened with "water hours" all the time if we didn't conserve, but we snipes knew better. We even washed the four and one half acre flight deck with fresh water once a week. We put our laundry in a large hopper in the berthing space and once a week it was put into bags and taken to the laundry. The next day it would come back and we would send one or two guys from our shop to sort laundry. There would be about 12 guys and they would station themselfs arround the compartment. Clothes were tossed to them and would end up on their bunks. When you came back from work, your laundry would be on your bunk ready to be folded and stowed. You were allowed 2 sets of dress whites per month. They would be cleaned, turned inside out starched and pressed. The two sides that touched would be glued together with the starch. Pulling them apart, turning them right side out and puting them on while keeping them clean and straight enough to pass muster was a problem. Most people wore one set to go on liberty and took their dirty whites with them. They wore their second set the second time over and picked up their laundry so they could go on liberty again. We took care of the laundry equipment so we got all of our whites cleaned when ever we wanted. One time the head Ship's Serviceman that was in charge of the laundry told the guy in charge of maintenance that they didn't have time to clean our whites. He told the SS that he had to check out one of the washer/extractors to make sure it was running ok. Washed our whites just fine! He then had to check out one of the driers. That worked also. We never had a problem after that. We even had a dry cleaning plant! They would dry clean your dress blues once every 6 months. It was also the location of a floating crap game for about 3 days after pay day. Jim Johnson MM2 (retired) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: royrichey@att.net Subject: Re: SSN Laundry As a former Ping-Jockey (target), who hung with the Snipes and Deck Apes, most of them were wooses. Stationed with one who would get upset if he didn't get two showers a day. Roy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Ken Goldman" Subject: Re: Samuel Eliot Morison books Although I am a regular customer of Edward R. Hamilton, Bookseller and my library has benefited greatly from their low prices, the Samuel Eliot Morison HISTORY OF USN OPS IN WWII can be had at an even better price from The Scholar's Bookshelf. I purchased mine at $149.95 for the entire 15-volumes set. The $45 difference can add another kit to your closet. Ken Goldman THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER unique wood sculpture and fine scale models www.walruscarpenter.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Art" Subject: Titanic Nottingham here are todays news highlights about the ship HMNZS Te Mana has now returned to Devonport + three of the Nots crew who elected to stay on board. Te Mana was the first naval vesel to arrive at the scene after the mishap and aided in DC and extended hospitalities etc (hot showers as all power was shut down on Nots.) Apparently HMS Nottingham was carrying out evolutions to recover her helo when she went broadside onto the rocks. The adverse weather conditions made the damage much worse than would be expected. Her crew now refer to the incident as "doing a Titanic". There is extensive damage to 5 compartments below the waterline and it is doubtful that she will be repaired, the cost involved for such an aging ship is not considered acceptable. There is some debate as to who was in effective command of the ship at the time she struck. The three 'survivors' continue to party up large on the strength of their stories. Art ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Mark Brown" Subject: Re: Plans for HMAS Swan (DE50) Chris wrote... >> Anyone know of any plans available for the destroyer escort HMAS Swan (et al) as around the mid 1980's? << The RAN supplies plans for model makers on CD. They appear to have been a bit overwhelmed by the response and have suspended the service until August. I received a CD with 20 plans on it for free. The drawings were much better than I thought they would be. Don't know if they will be free after August though. They list Swan as built 1970, Yarra post 1966 and Parramatta post 1979. The Parramatta set has a sheet for profile and upper decks and another for sections. Go to http://www.navy.gov.au/ and look in the site directory menu for "Model Makers Drawings". 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