Subject: SMML VOL 1857 Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 01:52:57 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: New Russian Book Series 2: Re: Prinz Eugen 3: So Napoleon refused the services of Prinz Eugen: and right he was!! 4: Re: HMCS Toronto 5: Re: Graf Spee - 1:150 scale 6: Ancient ships 7: Re: Prinz Eugen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information 1: Upcoming SMML updates 2: Re: 2003 Nats 3: Re: NATS 4: Re: Another Winner ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Pletscher-Lenz-Schneider" Subject: New Russian Book Series I just got a new Russian book on the ironclad Pyotr Velikiy. It is the first one in a new series published by Gangut, Saint Petersburg, and closely follows the desing and layout of the Anatomy of the Ship series. There are several photos and lots of detail drawings and plans including reprints of contemporary stuff. It covers the different states of fitting including the conversion to a gunnery training ship in 1906. The text is completely in Russian, but there are English captions to the photos and drawings. Highly recommendable. Falk Pletscher PS.: I got my copy from Mr. Sergey Myagkov. See his website at: http://siriusm.homestead.com/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Kevin Surjan" Subject: Re: Prinz Eugen >> He wrote, "The Duke of Savoy was a French Jewish noble who fought for the Austrians after his services were refused by Napoleon Bonaparte because of his timid appearance." Guess you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover. I get the impression that Prinz Eugen was an effective leader. It was after his service in the war against Napoleon that I suppose he was made Duke of Savoy. << Hello all, I think that the German cruiser Prinz Eugen was in fact named after Prince Eugen of Savoy 1663 - 1736. He fought for the Habsburgs against the French of Louis XIV (not Napoleon) and was particularly successful against the Turks. His most famous victories against the French were at Blenheim 1704 (together with the Duke of Marlborough) and Turin in 1706. Whilst against the Turks his best-known victories were at Zenta 1697 and Belgrade in 1717. He was considered by Napoleon as one of the seven greatest military commanders of all times. He was also a great patron of the arts. I believe that he was not Jewish. Regards, Kevin Surjan Perth, Western Australia ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Franz Aigner GmbH" Subject: So Napoleon refused the services of Prinz Eugen: and right he was!! Skeletons dont' make good generals. Prinz Eugen (1663 - 1736) had been dead for a good 30 years when Napoleon (1769 - 1821) was born. I am inclined to regard the claim of Prinz Eugen's Jewish background as just as wellfounded. The European high-aristocracy was not known to be Jewish or to marry Jews, but honestly I just don't know. At all events, some magazine articles should be judged by their content: baloney. Richard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: HMCS Toronto >> Lets not forget Darren Scannell's absolutely beautiful HMCS Toronto which took first in the split category 1:400 and Larger-Powered (Destroyers, Escorts, Frigates, and Corvettes). It was very well done and drew a number of well deserved comments. It was subjected to close inspection - and the detail photos of the real ship that Darren provided supported his interpretation of included details. Well done Darren. << Hear it from the guy that was there. That was a VERY well done model! It was one of those that looks better the closer you look. Quoting Maxwell Smart about best ship. "Missed it by THAT much"! (picture my fingers squeezed tightly together) I agree about the photos matching the model. That's what really helped set this wonderful model apart from the others (including mine). As long as I'm on the subject, what were those TINY yellow sections on the sides of the hull about amidships? Someone was saying they were the Canadian equivalent to stokes litters while some thought they were armament elevators. Can someone clear this up? Rusty White # 20181 IPMS/USA Head Ship Judge ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Darald Bantel Subject: Re: Graf Spee - 1:150 scale >> Take a look at this great 1:150 scale waterline model of the Graf Spee built by a former crew member. http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmodels/german_models/admiralgrafspeetitsch.html << I would very much like to see the pictures but the URL does not work - gives me a 404!!! Any suggestions? Darald ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "melee" Subject: Ancient ships Hi all SMMLers I collect 15mm sldiers as well as Neptun ships. I have a lot of 15mm Phoenician Marines from the Greco-Persian Wars Period. 15mm is approximately 1:110 scale. Does any company make ancient ships near this scale? Biremes Triremes Pentkosters something like these....Xystron makes 1:600 scale Greek and Carthaginian ships, but just way too small. Thanks for any help Lee Shackelford ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Daniel" Subject: Re: Prinz Eugen >> He wrote, "The Duke of Savoy was a French Jewish noble who fought for the Austrians after his services were refused by Napoleon Bonaparte because of his timid appearance." << ???? I thought that Eugen was the commander who fought with Marlborough at Blenheim, nearly a century before Napoleon. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Lorna Jenkins Subject: Upcoming SMML updates Hi everyone, In the next but one SMML Website update I have a couple of items which are carrier related. It would be great if we could get some more carrier stuff to make this update have a real "flat-top" theme to it. To that end, I want your help. Kit inboxes, kit builds, aftermarket reviews, book reviews, member models, reference pictures ..... if it's a carrier, I'd like you to send it in. If you need some assistance with your contribution, don't hesitate to email me. Cheers Lorna PS: Don't hesitate to send in anything else either ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: 2003 Nats >> On the 2003 Nationals, Rusty is promising a good time in his hometown. He said that tornados never happen at that time of year. (Look out!) << Woah there! I said no such thing. Anyone who has lived in the mid west their entire life as I have knows better than to make that claim. :-))) I believe I said "pretty much" over in July. >> The city is going to open a bus route just for modelers to see the sites of Oklahoma City. Will the bus run by the world headquarters of Flagship Models? << If the bus driver is open to bribery. >> All seriousness aside, one of the themes for next year's contest will be "Disguises of War" and is centered on camouflage. Looks like next year will be the time to bring all your brightly painted dazzle camouflage ships for display on the table. << Absolutely! That particular theme was my contribution to the Nats. I wanted a category everybody from auto modelers to sci-fi could compete equally in. Even though the auto and Sci-Fi guys have their own themes, this allows jeeps, staff cars, etc., to compete as long as they are camouflaged in some way. How do the sci-fi guys get in on the theme? Ever hear of a Klingon Bird of Prey, or Romulan battle cruiser? It's a stretch, but they do have cloaking devices and would be eligible. And of course ships are included in the mix as well. Check out our web site for all the info on the themes and special awards for the 2003 Nats. Rusty White # 20181 Chairman, 2003 IPMS/USA National Convention http://www.ipmsmetrookc.org OKC In 2003! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: AAA Hobby Subject: Re: NATS >> Also lots of people have mentioned the vendors at the IPMS NATS in Virginia, but curiously no one on the web has mentioned the ship entries??? Photos? Who entered what? What won and how were the entries? << Go to http://www.njipms.org/ for a comprehensive, but not complete, photographic review of the nationals. There isn't a direct link tot he contest photo page, but click on the yellow "IPMS/USA 2002 ..." line, click on "Exhibits" and then the photo pages are sorted by type across the top of the page. There are 75 photos of models on the NJ IPMS website and tons of other pics: 349 planes, 119 tanks, 103 autos, 29 spca/scifi, 92 figures, 44 dioramas and 17 others. James Corley AAA Hobby Supply email: aaahobby@earthlink.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: RLapadura@aol.com Subject: Re: Another Winner I too, was greatly impressed by Darren's Toronto. If it wasn't for the category split, I'm sure it would have beaten my Furutaka. But that don't mean I'm giving back my 1st place ;-) As to the Constitution taking Best Ship...anyone who puts that much work into a kit deserves a break when it comes to judging. And, to assume that the larger subject will always beat a smaller subject is a great disservice to the judges, and the builders of all the models on the tables. Having done my share of judging, I never envy having to make that kind of decision. My hat is off to all the judges, they did a great job! My $.02 Bob LaPadura ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume