Subject: SMML VOL 1917 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 01:34:00 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Glasgow show, Best place to live and Battleships 2: Revell/Monogram SSP Releases 3: Re: W W 1 German submarine U-103 4: USS Arizona 5: More ships listed on ICM site 6: Re: Campbell Missile 7: USN BB-64 Wisconsin 1991 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Andy Airlie" Subject: Glasgow show, Best place to live and Battleships Thanks David for the Information on the venue change, I'd agree should be a better venue! Additionally round the corner at the Transport Museum is the Clyde Room with all those beautiful Models of Clyde built ships over the last 200 years, (Hood, Howe, Finnisterre, QE2 etc.!) There have been many posts proclaiming Scotland as the best place to live, whilst I'm as patriotic as the next man and we certainly have a rich nautical history here in the Glasgow area. We've also had 83 days of consecutive rain this summer?? I like the sound of Hawaii (anyone fancy a swop?) The posts about the usefulness of Battleships have been hugely entertaining, Pros and Cons on both sides, but the information on a 120mm APFSDS round defeating 12" of Belt armour is slightly misleading, having worked at the Company who manufacture the Sights etc. for Chieftain/Challenger I know a limited amount on this topic. APFSDS rounds rely on Kinetic energy to defeat armour and 'spall' to wreak havoc on Soft tissue/munitions on the other side. They are hugely effective against modern tanks, but 12" of plate armour is a different proposition, it'd be like driving a pin in to Rhino Hide.. you may penetrate through but the damage on the other is minimal and you'd have an awfully pi**ed of Rhino! See you on the 5th. Cheers, Andy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Rod Dauteuil" Subject: Revell/Monogram SSP Releases Hello all, I am glad to hear R/M is planning another SSP program. I just hope this time they keep the Lockheed Super "G" Constellation out--It's been released at least 3 times in the past 7 years! I hope to start a new thread: What ship models would you most like to see re-released? Of course R/M will release mostly planes and some cars, but hopefully they include some ships as they did in the early 1990's. Personally I'd like to see the Monogram Ramsey and Halsey, and the Revell Ward/Campbelltown, Forrest Sherman, SS Brazil and the Burleigh/Hawaiian Fisherman. I thought I'd like to see their Fletcher until this past week a collection came in to a local hobby shop, which included a late 1980's release of this destroyer. I was excited and ready to take it until I took a good look at it. Glad I never bought one on Ebay. So I'd like to hear what others think. God Bless America and Her Allies on this eve of September 11. May we never forget. Rod ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject: Re: W W 1 German submarine U-103 I have acquired an original amateur snapshot of W W 1 German submarine U-103, surfaced in an unidentified harbor (possibly Denmark). Thanks to SMML I have been able to find a little about this vessel. She was rammed and sunk by RMS OLYMPIC, sister ship of RMS TITANIC) in May of 1918. One source identifies U-103 as being of type "Mittel U". Sources differ about details of the incident, one says she had time to fire a torpedo (which missed), another says she was surprised on the surface and was unable to do anything. Nine or ten of the crew were lost. I again turn to SMML, and ask if someone can please tell me more about this class of submarine, and possibly supply a photo and/or a general line drawing thereof. I just know some of SMML have more detailed information than can be reasonably expected of the websites. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Frank Stile" Subject: USS Arizona I recently received a 1:700 scale model of a MiniHobbyModels 1941 Arizona. It is a much improved kit over the old Revel 1:720 Arizona. I compared drawings and it appears to be acceptablly accurate although the plastic appears to be a bit soft. Had to get the glue out and it is now almost in the primer stage. B/W pictures seem to indicate it is all one color but all my references and the web didn't help determining the color. Question, does anyone have the actual gray color.? Frank, Canyon Lake, Texas ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: NEVENGER@aol.com Subject: More ships listed on ICM site Say I went surfing the good old web tonight and though what the heck. Thus I visted the ICM site and saw 2 new WW1 German capital ships listed with pictures. I was wondering if this was just another cruel joke from ICM to make us hope. They are also showing some interesting stuff in their site on the Hood in a digital format. I sure hope this is not to tease me further. Richard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Terry Wiltshire Subject: Re: Campbell Missile >> I got to see a little-known film from WW2 this past weekend. It was a 30-minute feature jointly produced by the US Navy, Army, and Office of Strategic Services (OSS) about something called the "Campbell Missile". This was a highly-classified project to develop a stealthy means of attacking enemy capital ships in protected anchorages (e.g., Tirpitz). The "missile" consisted of a unmanned high-speed boat (about 30 feet long) packed with explosives, fitted with a television camera -- very high tech for the period! -- and radio receiver, and remotely steered to its target. In a successful test conducted in Chesapeake Bay in early 1944, the craft was disguised as a fishing boat and guided for several miles by an operator flying above in a B-17. It rammed a derelict freighter named "San Pablo" and practically vaporized the hulk. Nobody knew if this weapon was ever actually fielded, the best guess being that after the Normandy invasion it was deemed no longer necessary. Anybody heard of the Campbell project before? << Mike Many years ago I read a similar story except it was old US Bombers in England that were stuffed with explosives and were to be crashed into bridges etc. I seem to remember it was the same idea with a primitive TV camera and remote control. It did not work very well. The headline of the story was that one of the Kennedy brothers was killed whilst testing one of these flying bombs. I am travelling at the moment (sitting in an internet cafe in Prague) but when I get back I will see if I can find the article and scan it for you. It was in Mayfair a British "Gentlemen's" magazine! Terry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Gary Au" Subject: USN BB-64 Wisconsin 1991 Hi all, Will there any difference with the contents of the Pitroad kits between the USN BB-64 Wisconsin 1991 and other Iowa Class for 1983 - 1984? Gary, Hong Kong ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume