Subject: SMML VOL 1928 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:50:18 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: black ships cammo in WW2 2: Re: OT: Cheverolet d.u.k.w. 3: making deck vents 4: the trouble with information 5: Re: Injection mold costs 6: Black ships ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Alex Subject: Re: black ships cammo in WW2 Andrew, >> ... the only ships in WW2 I know of without as yet checked any of my books at home was US navy subs early in the war, didn't they try a destoyer or 2 in black?????? << From my memory, Yamato decks were dressed in black silk during her last sortie to Okinawa. Not a USN camouflage at all but beautiful as well. Alex ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Bruce Burden Subject: Re: OT: Cheverolet d.u.k.w. >> A friend is searching for pics about a Cheverolet d.u.k.w.. Its an amphibic car in WWII. << You can try a web search, using dukw. GMC built the vehicle, not Chevrolt. It was based on GMC's 2.5 ton 6x6 truck, the CCKW. And, it was "DUKW", no periods in the name. Failing that, Squadron/Signal publishes a "DUKW in Action", which goes for about $8.00. Other books are "The Quack Corps" and a DUKW operation manual reprint. Haror Tours in Boston uses DUKW's in their operations. Okay, they are painted red, use a GM 350 engine and TH350 automatic, but externally they are reasonable close. There is a DUKW (actually, it may be a Super DUKW) on display in both Oklahoma City at the 35th Infantry Division Museum and in Austin at the Texas Military Forces Museum. Bruce ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Steven Lau Subject: making deck vents I am facing what is, for me, a difficult problem. As most of you know, resin ship kits tend to have bubbles in the deck fittings. Sometimes these are so bad the the entire fitting needs to be replaced, not repaired. Usually this is straight forward for such things as box structures and bollards, but mushroom vents are another matter. How do you make new ones? I'm thinking of 1/350 scale. This may be a good idea for some resin kit manufacturer as an after market set. Parts to either repair fittings or to replace kit fittings with better ones. Bollards, vents, Deck winches of several different types, detailed ammunition boxes and storage boxes with door latches and handles on them. Many different possibilities I've not even mentioned. What do you think? I would definitely buy a few sets of those. TIA Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: andrew jones < andrewj@syd.tomen.com.sg> Subject: the trouble with information >> very important for us all to double check our information before putting it out on the net << now the trouble with any information, is who do you believe... if you hear it twice or more could it be true? the only people really that could answer the questions thruthfully would be the people that were there..& I guess if you ask someone something that happened nearly sixty years ago or even ten days ago could be a little wrong... guess the onlything that would fix any on going battles about colour schemes or other things is to go back in time..but we cant so I guess the ongoing debates continue ..and anyhow that's why we have these discussion groups to throw (gently) ideas at each other & see what the general thought of the matter is .. if its wrong, so beit regards Andrew Oz ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: louellet@uism.bu.edu Subject: Re: Injection mold costs Mike Donegan wrote: >> Thank you Larry, some very interesting comments about Revell. But what I am not getting is that in this day of lasers and computer technology, why is it not easier and cheaper to make the molds - the old molds where made under very labor intensive conditions - seems to me it should be easier and much cheaper now. Have I missed something or is it the companies that have? << Mike, most of the major model companies have their molds cut and injected in China and Korea these days. They are doing it because it is cheaper of course, and it keeps them in business. Tamiya (I think) is using a computer controlled laser to cut their new molds, but the molds themselves are huge and very expensive, even when the work is done in China and Korea! Do a Google groups search on injection molds in the group rec.models.scale and you will find many hundreds of messages that deal with this issue. By the way, I would recommend that everyone read the r.m.s usenet newsgroup if you have access. Ship topics come and go, but there are usually well over 100 messages a day posted about all kinds of modeling topics. Larry Ouellette Volunteer, USS Salem (CA 139) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Erhardtsen" Subject: Black ships The Danish motor minesweeper MS1 was painted black (with tar) on her escape to Sweden in 1943. She was nicknamed Sorte Sara (Black Sara) at that occasion. The name was made official in 1945. Erik Erhardtsen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume