Subject: SMML VOL 1944 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 01:28:24 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Blue Jackets Manual 2: Re: Darius,Darius,Darius!!! 3: Re: Wash Technique 4: La Moqueuse 5: Re: That Letter to James Baumann 6: Re: Classic Airframes Kits 7: Re: DUKW 8: Re: Apollo 12 9: Re: Wash 10: Re: U.S.S. ALBACORE 11: Midget Submarines 12: Re: 1/35 Italeri DUKW 13: Re: Italeri DUKW 14: Re: Preserving Ships 15: Re: Italeri DUKW 16: Re: Italeri DUKW ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information 1: San Francisco Model Warship Regatta this Saturday and Sunday ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: royrichey@att.net Subject: Blue Jackets Manual Just came across a Fourteenth Edition (1950) Blue Jackets Manual in a local bookstore for US$5.95. If any one is interested contact me off-list and I'll pick it up for cost + shipping. Roy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "D.Przezdziecki" Subject: Re: Darius,Darius,Darius!!! Yes John, you are right about the aft gun mount in Chen Yen. As I said -nobody is unfallable and I am always ready to admit to my mistakes. Even the set of plans I have mentioned in my references show the 6inch gun in light shield in this position. I should have checked my post more throughly before I have pressed "send" - my apologies!!! Best wishes D.P ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: Wash Technique Hi Bill, Personally, I'd go with a wash of artists' oil paint in turpentine. That should have no effect on either enamels or acrylics. Best, John Snyder White Ensign Models http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "L'Arsenal" Subject: La Moqueuse Hello, If you need some photos of the French P 400 La Moqueuse, go to this page on Net Marine, there are some good pictures of this class of ships http://www.netmarine.net/photos/patrouil.htm Best regards from Normandie, Jacques Druel L'Arsenal ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "David Griffith" Subject: Re: That Letter to James Baumann Dear James, "RIGHT ON!!!!" Life is just too short to be taken seriously. Let the rivet counters count their rivets on their own and put their blood pressures up. I'm just going to join you and carry on doing this hobby for FUN!!! Regards (and Happy Modelling), David Griffith ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "David Griffith" Subject: Re: Classic Airframes Kits Dear David in Dixie, I've never made a Classic Airframes kit, but have read quite a few reviews of them. They are short run injection moulded kits with some parts done in resin. They tend to choose subjects that other manufacturers ignore, although they are often significant aircraft (eg Bristol Blenheim). I have looked inside a couple of boxes. Detail on the injection moulded parts is somewhat "soft" compared to the mainstream manufacturers, but some of the resin moulding is superb. Some of them have major question marks raised over accuracy (eg Fairey Battle), and in general they all have big problems in the fit department. It is reported that you usually need an industrial quality Dremel to get cockpits to fit inside fuselages, etc. But if you enjoy a challenge and have decent references, you could have some fun making something a bit out of the ordinary. Regards, David Griffith ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Dirk Emmermacher" Subject: Re: DUKW Hello Steve, hello George, hello list. Thank you for all your information. It is very interesting to me >> Don't hold your breath: Last time I checked, they still plan to release their 1/35 halftrack in November, 2001. (Yes, that's Two Thousand and ONE.) The dukw's been in the rumor mill for at least five years. << Some companies need some time finish a project, other companies need some times more... >> I think that Airfix still do their 1/76th scale model of the DUKW. I also believe that they still do the Alligator tracked amphibious vehicle << I suppose, it will be not easy to get Airfix kits in germany. Most dealers here have only Revell, some addionally Tamiya and Italeri. Airfix is a rare bird here. Dirk IG Mikromodell http://www.mikromodell.de mailto:emmermacher@hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: annobon4@aol.com Subject: Re: Apollo 12 Hi Guys This is the last posting for Apollo 12. Joe, yes, I am familiar with pi. But in votech school I was taught that it used twice in the formula and it isn't 3.14 (the true number) in the formula it's supposed to be 0.785. As a kid, never went past alegbra. I didn't like math. Today I do. It's amazing that old rocket still survines and is in orbit at all. Thanks for the answers guys. Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "David Griffith" Subject: Re: Wash >> My question is this: I airbrushed the deck with a coat of floquil tan acrylic-- what should I use for a wash? I've never found water - based paints to work very well- the surface tension is just to great. I remember reading somewhere that the airplane guys use very thin washes to highlight panel lines. I think I have two options: 1. Use an oil based paint, well thinned with paint thinner. (Is this safe to use on top of the acrylic base coat?) 2. Use a water based paint, but thin it with rubbing alcohol (or something else?) to get it to flow better into the crevices. Any recommendations? << Dear Bill, Artist's oil paints, well thinned with white spirit will work well. If using over enamels, let the base coat dry very thoroughly and work quickly and gingerly with the wash, or you'll lift the base coat. However, it's very safe over acrylics. Using waterbased paints with alcohol, you are safe over enamel, but need to be careful over certain types of acrylic. It will lift Tamiya acrylic straight off, and I suspect the same may hold true with others that need to be thinned with alcohol. If you use water as a thinner, the surface tension can be broken down by adding a few drops of windscreen washer fluid. That's something you might like to try. Whichever you end up using, drybrush with artist's oils in a lighter colour afterwards. That'll make all the difference. Regards, David Griffith ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject: Re: U.S.S. ALBACORE I lost a recent issue of SMML, and my "thread" on ALBACORE was broken. In SMML VOL. 1943 there was a reference to what may be a W W 2 ALBACORE fleet submarine (remember, there is a gap in my info). Is (or was) there a W W 2 ALBACORE? The ALBACORE I had referred to earlier was truly a post-war experimental vessel, now a museum in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, USA. I am (obviously) not knowledgeable about submarines (remember, my most recent model was of a submarine chaser), but am curious about all ships, and would appreciate knowing something about a W W 2 ALBACORE. Off line would be O.K. A curious mind wants to know. Incidentally, on my visit to New Hampshire's ALBACORE I couldn't see how some of the crewmen could even get into their cramped bunks, let alone turn over in them, Then it hit me, the secret is to be 19 again. The same solution applies to some of the berthing area of the destroyer U.S.S. Cassin Young, a museum ship in the old Charlestown Navy Yard (Boston, Mass.) Thanks. Franklyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "David Clark" Subject: Midget Submarines Thanks for your help Les, Rui and Gary. The propellor guard on the Type A will need some work too. Both kits should keep me out of trouble for a while! Regards David ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Paul Borchers Subject: Re: 1/35 Italeri DUKW Italeri has released their DUKW, but I don't know when it will hit the shelves in the United States. See http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/it6392.htm for a review and a look at the parts. I build these models (all kinds) for fun, and I'd say it looks nice. Paul Borchers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Gary Subject: Re: Italeri DUKW FWIW Italeri had thier kit on display at the 2002 Chicago hobby show http://www.internetmodeler.com/2002/september/special/rchta3.htm and Squadron shop has it in their advance order program in my latest flyer for $29.96, they also show an Armageddon 1/72 LCA Gary ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Preserving Ships >> At least the USA & UK has a myriad of ships to visit, most of the Australian navy ends up as Chinese razor blades or we spend 2 million Pacific Pesos ($OZ dollars) making them safe enough to sink as a diving reef for those adventurous enough! << Speaking of diving............... Has there been any known attempts to dive on the battlecruiser HMAS Australia? I thought that vessel was scuttled somewhere of one of the coasts of Australia. Steve Wiper ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Italeri DUKW >> Don't hold your breath: Last time I checked, they still plan to release their 1/35 halftrack in November, 2001. (Yes, that's Two Thousand and ONE.) The dukw's been in the rumor mill for at least five years. << Just got the latest hobby dealer issue from the giant hobby distributor "Military Model Distributors", the parent company to "Squadron Mail Order" and they list the Italeri 1/35 DUKW, part number IT6392, for $35.00 retail, available in October. This would mean that the kits are in a container and en route to the USA. Steve Wiper ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: Mike Settle Subject: Re: Italeri DUKW There has been a bit of discussion about the new Italeri 1/35th scale kit of the DUKW on the Track-Link message boards lately. The kit is generally available in in Europe, but has not yet hit the shores of the U.S. Release in the U.S. is supposed to be around October or November. Hannants has the kit listed. http://www.hannants.co.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?Mode=view&Database=advn&R=IT6392 Hannants makes a comment about Italeri having mold problems with the new kit, but according to the gurus on Track-Link's message boards, this is not true. They speculate that Hannants seriously underestimated demand for the kit. Mike Settle ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: SeaPhoto@aol.com Subject: San Francisco Model Warship Regatta this Saturday and Sunday Hi Everyone, Just a reminder, the 3rd Annual San Francisco Military and Submarine Regatta will be happening this Saturday and Sunday at San Francisco's Golden Gate Park. We will be running at the Flycasting Ponds, just across from the Buffalo Pen. (This will make sense to those who visit the park, and no doubt puzzle all others ) For more information and directions please go to: http://wmunderway.8m.com/reg/reg.html Hope to see you there Kurt Greiner SeaPhoto Maritime Photography www.warshipphotos.com Order via our online catalog...now taking credit cards via Paypal Warship Models Underway www.warshipmodelsunderway.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume