Subject: SMML VOL 1949 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 13:34:51 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: On washes and Future 2: Re: The final mitigation 3: Burying the Hatchet 4: HMAS Canberra 5: Rod Dauteuil Re - Ships for Sale 6: Re: final mitigation 7: Interesting items on eBay 8: Re: proposed battleships -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: For Sale ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Devin J. Poore" Subject: On washes and Future As far as pigment "size" goes, there are definite differences, some having finer and some coarser. I asked at the Pearl Paints here in Manhattan (where they have probably two-dozen brands of oils) and they recommended Gamblin for fine pigments. I have to admit that the washes and dry brushing I have done with them have yielded great results. For thinning oils for a wash, the aircraft modelers on Hyperscale rave about using naphtha, a.k.a. lighter fluid. It runs well and dries quickly. I haven't tried it as of yet, but will on my current project when I get to that point. As far as Future goes, I concur that those of you who are having problems with spraying and brush marks need to try a different bottle. I've NEVER had any of these problems. I brush painted some earlier in the week and then laid decals on it while still wet, and the whole process worked wonderfully. Devin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "D.Przezdziecki" Subject: Re: The final mitigation Hello Jim, I am very glad that we can talk instead of just shouting :-). So here comes my two cents or rather two pennies: The Chnese pair did indeed carriy a pair of torpedo boats but majority of the sources seems to agree that they were landed very soon after those ships were commisioned into the Chinese navy at the end of October 1885. In my opinion it might have been done at the same time as the sail rig (used for the delivery trip only) was removed from the foremast of both ships. All of the photos of Ting Yuan and Chen Yuan in Chinese service that I have seen so far (with one ambiguous exception) show the oar powered boats in the place of torpedo boats. In short Conway may be correct that Ting Yuan had her torpedo boats in 1884 but in that year she was still German hands and her commisioning into the Chinese navy was almost a year away. Best wishes D.P ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Joel Labow Subject: Burying the Hatchet Colleagues, In this era of diminished civility in general and internet 'flame wars' in particular it is rare indeed to see a dispute which has raged across 2 bulletin boards ended in such a gentlemanly fashion. I stand in admiration of both principals. Joel Labow ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "DAVID OLSON" Subject: HMAS Canberra I recently run across information on the HMAS Canberra and a book authored by Alan Payne, by Shane Jenkins. This is supposed to be a 116 page book that gives the history of the HMAS Canberra. Reference in made to this book in the History of the USS Jarvis. I am only interested in a picture of the Canberra, with the USS Elliott and the USS Jarvis all three damaged and burning off Guadalcanal on 8 august 1942. If anyone know how I may be able to get this book I would appreciate the information. Davia A Olson Hi David, Try the Naval Historical Society of Australia at: http://www.navyhistory.org.au/ Shane ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Steve James" Subject: Rod Dauteuil Re - Ships for Sale G'Day Rod, Can you contact regarding your list please, either your email is rejecting me, or my wife has found a way to cut my spending! Cheers, Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Re: final mitigation >> Until 6 months ago I had never operated a computer and thought of them as being in league with the devil!!!! (corrupting the youth of today etc harangue harangue!!!) << They are!! and rum has long been associated with the demon; so all this is bad because??? :-) >> Having joined the SMML and learnt the instant access to so much knowledge and information that is possible thru this fellowship I now realise that there is so much information out there that I simply did not realise existed; I hope that now I will have better access and help in more obscure subject matters. << Yes, one can spend enough time at the "puter to enable one to avoid doing anything actually useful. Then again drinking while surfing is legal!! :-) Besides we have to do something to keep you from making the rest of us look bad while you turn out all those nice models :-) Regards, Bradford Chaucer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: paulship37@aol.com Subject: Interesting items on eBay I saw these items for sale at eBay. BRITISH WARSHIPS OF THE 2nd WORLD WAR - MINT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1566312132 NAVAL Soviet Warship Development 1917-1937 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1565231422 Troopships of World War II, 1st Edition 1947 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1565180629 The Fleet Submarine in the U.S. Navy http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1565176113 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Ted0330@aol.com Subject: Re: proposed battleships I appreciated Nat's post. The ships cancelled by the Washington Treaty were beautiful and powerful, on both the US and Japanese side of the Pacific. Resin modelling is sufficiently esoteric, and both appeals to and is created by people sufficiently sophisticated with regard to battleship history, that I am surprised by the relatively limited range of subjects. Now, admittedly, there is a MUCH better range and quality of models in resin than hobby store styrene kits. Still, any interest out there for- -1920 South Dakota -1920 Lexington -1920 Tosa -1912 Tiger I'm especially surprised by the lack of coverage of the last ship. We all admire the Hood, and there have been enough kits to cover that subject for some time. How about Tiger, the largest warship in the world in her time, and certainly one of the most beautiful. I don't have the skills to build her from scratch in styrene and brass, although I've done a 1:450 in balsa wood. I have had hints the subject may be covered by a resin company in 1:350 (MY dream anyway). Thoughts? Ted Tsaltas ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: annobon4@aol.com Subject: For Sale The following kits: 2 AHM (EX-REVELL) USS Long Beach CGN-9 kits for $10.00 each. 2 Tamiya 1/700 scale HMS Hood for $10.00 each. If you want two kits it's $20.00 The shipping and handling charge is $3.00 for kit and $6.00 for two kits. Craig Bennett ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume