Subject: SMML VOL 1998 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 03:55:47 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: 1/350 Modern USS NJ 2: Re: Handling a fighing sailing ship 3: Norman Friedmand's new book - U.S. Amphibious Ships and Craft 4: Re: Type 23 5: Re: Type 23 6: Re: B&W photo color interpretation 7: Seydlitz coal scuttles 8: Shipborne Maxim quads ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "pnwa1 Subject: 1/350 Modern USS NJ Hello all, Thanks for the dialog in regards to my earlier posting and the great suggestion on tube size for the replacement guns. However, several areas still remain to be covered and I hope with the expertise out there, we can find some solutions. Questions which remain are as to decking material for replacing the molded in deck with a wood inlay and what does one do in replacing the molded in details? Are there after market parts for such including the 16" main guns and what resources for information may be helpful? Replies are most appreciated....thanks... Bob ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Fkbrown90 Subject: Re: Handling a fighing sailing ship To Robert Mosher The concept of "watches" with specfic duties was a neat idea, but the confsion of combat casualties must have created considerable consternation. Franklyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: John Kutina Subject: Norman Friedmand's new book - U.S. Amphibious Ships and Craft Naval Institute Press just released this book. It has has nearly 300 photographs and specially commissioned line drawings plus extensive appendixes. The photos are outstanding as are the line drawings. I think it is an outstanding addition to U.S. Naval history. Regards, John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: chris rogers Subject: Re: Type 23 Thats good news Graeme at least your down under with the rest of us, in that case Mike brown does a 23 hull at 1-72, then you could join us in AUSTRALIA, Task Force 72 and it could? sail with the rest of the fleet. Leander, type 12, type 42, type 21s, type 22s, and invincible class carrier, Fearless class LPD. good luck with it hope to see some photo's on here as you go along. chris oz ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "M Brown" Subject: Re: Type 23 Graeme, TF72 originates in Oz. If you had mentioned it earlier I could have brought a hull over with me on Sunday! Michael Brown Task Force 72 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: B&W photo color interpretation Hi Dave, I've had a look at the photos, and agree with you that the ships do not appear to be black, even allowing for different light reflection on sloping surfaces. CARONDELET in particular is quite light-colored. These photos would have been made with blue-sensitive emulsion on glass plates, probably the wet-plate process. These emulsions behaved slightly differently from the later orthochromatic film emulsions in terms of tonal rendition, but similarly enough that one can make the same general assumptions. Note in the photo of CAIRO how light the blue field of the flag is against the equally light sky. That said, I just don't know enough about ACW subject to offer much help. CARONDELET looks almost light enough to have been white, or a VERY pale gray. Now, think about this: you have this great chunk of iron ship, operating in warm climes, and it's already bloody hot because of the boilers below decks and very little ventilation. A nice, light reflective color will help keep things a LITTLE cooler.... Light grays? Blue-grays? Perhaps. Even greens would have been rendered fairly light by blue-sensitive emulsions. Keep us posted as/if you find more information. I have seen references to these early "riverine" vessels being painted differently, but nothing that I would cite as gospel. (Oh, for weeks and weeks to spend at NARA!) Best, John Snyder White Ensign Models Home Page for WEM, http://WhiteEnsignModels.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "D.Przezdziecki" Subject: Seydlitz coal scuttles Jim, while I am not claiming any particularily specjalist knowledge about "Seydlitz" I know from my research into WWI ships that there wasn't such a thing as an universal coal scuttles design; not even on the ships of any one nation. While the round hatch with narrow rim was the most popular design there were exceptions and idiosycrasies. For example "Von der Tann" did have standart round hatches liberaryli spread on the deck while "Hindenburg" did have similar arrangements but each hatch's rim did have small rectangular extension and "Konig" did have its hatches arranged either as a singles or doubles or triples with doubles and triples mounted within a common base of the same colour as the deck. What I am trying to say is that in a case of any particular ship photos and reliable drawings of this ship need to be examined to determine its hatches arrangement. Regards D.P ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "D.Przezdziecki" Subject: Shipborne Maxim quads Does anybody on the list has any details about shipborne turrets for AA Maxim quads mounted on Russian monitors and river patrol boats during WWII??? All help will be appreciated. Regards D.P ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume