Subject: SMML VOL 2024 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:49:45 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: U.S naval uniforms 1893 -1900 2: orange peel 3: Saw info request 4: Museums and donated models 5: where do models go? 6: Re: Heller Hood 7: Re: Expedition Bismarck 8: Midway TV presentation 9: Re: Heller Hood 10: Titanic Tonight 11: Re: Model donations to museums 12: Equipment Guides -SSN637 13: Lifeboat Colours ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information 1: First Forty Years of the Nautical Research Journal on CD-ROM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "richard wootten" Subject: U.S naval uniforms 1893 -1900 I have just been to a magnificent production of Madam Butterfly. Lt Pinkerton wore a Plum coloured uniform with lots of gold lace and looked rather like a very successful ice-cream salesman. What was the shore-going rig of a junior officer in the White Fleet (Japan station) at the turn of the century? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Fox, John" Subject: orange peel Hi I painted and decaled the hull and deck of my Skywave Spruance, but when I sprayed it with Testors Dullcote, it orange peeled on me. The clear parts of the decals are flat, but the rest of the deck is not. I really don't want to strip the paint and start over. Is there anything I can do? Thanks. John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Boatbldr Subject: Saw info request About Scroll saws...If you can afford it get the DeWalt 788 - I was at a craft fair this weekend - there were four vendors with scroll work on display and every single one of them used the DeWalt. It is by far the best of the mid level models, and it's parallel arm mechanism makes for wonderful accuracy! regards Boatbldr ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Jeff Herne, NJAHOF" Subject: Museums and donated models I've had several instances where folks have brought in boxes of models that appear to have built by a 5 year old with no instructions, and they want a huge tax donation letter, and get quite irritated when we refuse. There are several criteria that the modeler must meet before we issue a tax donation letter. These are, by no means, standard museum policy, it's just that this is what we've found works. First, are 3 appraisals from modeling professionals. This can include brokers, hobby shop owners, and professional modelers. The average of the 3 is taken and that is the appraised value we submit to the IRS. If the modeler gets 6 and submits the highest three, so be it...as a museum, we cannot legally appraise a donated item, it has to be done by outside parties. Secondly, the model, if donated, must be presentable. I've had half built kits and 'fixer-uppers' donated, which just doesn't work. We also usually request a base/and/or case for the model. We do make exceptions for exceptional pieces or large models. The last criteria is common sense...we have some absolutely exquisite models in our collection, including an R/C B-25 with an 18' wingspan appraised at $125,000, a 6' long model of the Hindenburg appraised at $30,000, and a series of 1/4 scale models including a P-47 and P-38 and Ford Tri-motor (built by myself), a wonderful Curtiss Jenny, Ryan ST (Spirit of St. Louis) and a 1/2 scale model of the Mars Observer satellite...at half scale, it's 25 ft. long! I've had folks bring in a 1/48 model of average quality and want $1000 tax deduction...hello?!?!? It is unfortunate that we can't accept everything that folks donate...but we also have to be selective. Issuing too many donation letters draws the attention of the IRS...as do large ticket items, such as the B-25. The IRS actually sent a field rep down to look at the B-25 model and our paperwork...because a $125,000 donation letter automatically sends up a red flag at the secret IRS headquarters... :-) Regards, Jeff Herne Director, NJ Aviation Hall of Fame and Museum ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Roger Buckley" Subject: where do models go? Until I started doing a lot of buying on ebay I hadn't given it much thought. The completed models were usually given to family & friends and I usually only had the model I was currently working on. Since I discovered ebay I now have over a 100 kits racked up ready to begin. I would hope my wife/widow would make some money from them and keep any completed ones as a memento. None of my 5 kids are modelmakers and only one grandson shows potential but is a little young and another 7 year old is heavily into lego, which is a start I suppose - I started on meccano back in the fifties. Like other folks on this list I dont plan to shuffle off the mortal coil until ALL projects are complete. Now let me see, this week I have 4x54mm figures, 4x1/20th grand prix cars and an armed wooden launch by Panart coming, oh and a giant Tarantula diorama for my grandson. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: RDChesneau Subject: Re: Heller Hood >> Thanks for all the help on trying to obtain a Heller HMS Hood. I have just ordered it from WEM. R D Chesneau commented on a "stunning new book". To what would this be in reference to? << Ohhh - modesty forbids! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: RDChesneau Subject: Re: Expedition Bismarck >> For those of you into bad movies: Sink the Bismarck!, History Channel, December 7th, 8:00pm and midnight. << Oh come on Roy, it's not so bad, IMHO, given its 1960 vintage. The romantic stuff is a bit naff, but not too many liberties were taken with the screenplay, some degree of effort went into the modelmaking, and the Swordfish is/are real. There are some faux pas - "HMS Solent", for example (!) - but at least we don't have a US cruiser masquerading as a German warship! Roger ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Randy Ward Subject: Midway TV presentation Some months back, I saw a show on TV giving a nice presentation of the action at the Battle of Midway. They had computer models of the carriers, showing where the bomb and torpedo hits were. 'Seems the series was called, "Battlefield". 'Don't recall the channel, but it might've been PBS (public television, for those outside the US). Does anyone remember the series? Does anyone have the Midway episode on tape? Randy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Alan Cameron" Subject: Re: Heller Hood >> Thanks for all the help on trying to obtain a Heller HMS Hood. I have just ordered it from WEM. R D Chesneau commented on a "stunning new book". To what would this be in reference to? << This book would be from the "Anatomy of the Ship" series on HMS Hood, a updated reprint from the original about 15 years ago, also available from WEM around 25 pounds, or AUD $75 here in Melbourne. Old or new, both still "stunning". Cheers Alan Cameron ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: NedWriter Subject: Titanic Tonight History Channel (US) is showing Titanic - 90 Years Under tonight. At least according to last night's promos. They make it look like something new and special. Ned ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: ELLshipmodeler Subject: Re: Model donations to museums Rusty, I'm afraid your friend at the museum is wrong. We went through this situation a few years ago when someone wanted to donate some models to the Nautical Research Guild. I checked with several tax attorneys, and even contacted the IRS. I doubt the IRS rules on this subject have change recently. Only the value of the Kit or purchased parts can be claimed as a donation. The labor hours "of the donor" cannot be included. Also, any large donation must be backed up with considerable paperwork. I suggest contacting a very knowledgeable tax lawyer, and the IRS before proceeding. Gene Larson Member, NRG ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: John Kutina Subject: Equipment Guides -SSN637 http://www.military.com/Resources/EQG/EQGmain?file=SSN637&cat=v&lev=2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: M Brown Subject: Lifeboat Colours Regarding the recent lifeboat colours articles, a little while ago I received from the RNLI’s Engineering Office details of their colours. They are all BS381C colours. Blue Oxford Blue 105 Orange Light Orange 557 Yellow Bold Yellow 363 Red Rail Red 593 Some sites show various Humbrol colours as being a match to a standard colour. In some cases, the only match is the name! Humbrol’s Technical Department sent me a list of which colours actually match a standard colour. A copy of the details is attached for Shane. If you are looking for BS & RAL Colours, a good starting point is the model railway paint people as the trains use standard colours extensively. In Australia, TLB Paints (bakerss@ozdocs.net.au) do many B.S., A.S. & F.S. colours but only in gloss. They use small glass bottles circa 100mls & PET ones at 200mls. They will do 250, 500 & 1,000 mls cans if you ask very nicely! Their BS381C 697 Light Admiralty Grey is the 1948 tone which is the one the R.N. used to use Phoenix Paints in the U.K. do any BS colour on request but only in a minimum of 125 mls tin (better than the piddly 42mls Humbrol tin if you build lots of post war RN/RNZN models or larger scale models). The paints are designed to be airbrushed. Contact them via http://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/. They do actually produce modelling FS paints but the minimum order required to match to the FS colour (color?) chart will make your eyes water. Their BS381C 697 Light Admiralty Grey is the current tone, not the one the R.N. used to use. Michael Brown Task Force 72 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Vincent.Mccullough Subject: First Forty Years of the Nautical Research Journal on CD-ROM Just in time for Christmas! The first forty years of the Nautical Research Journal are now available on CD-ROM. The multi-disk CD set contains Adobe Acrobat Portable Document Format (PDF) reprints of Volumes 1 through 40 of the Nautical Research Journal and Volumes 1 through 3 of the Secretary's Monthly Letter. Each set of disks contains 8,000 pages of ship design information, maritime history, shop notes and the like. The Journals and Letters are complete - every page, article, photograph, illustration, plan, table, letter to the editor and, yes, every advertisement is included. The CD set contains a wealth of nautical research and ship model building information unobtainable anywhere else. Many of the issues contained in this set have been long out of print. The electronic versions of the Journal and Letter have been organized by volume, just like the printed originals. To simplify looking up articles and references, each volume has been "book marked" so that you can easily navigate from article to article. In addition, each volume has been paginated so that the electronic page numbers in each PDF document match those of the printed original. The CD set also contains John Barry's comprehensive printed index to Volumes 1 through 40 which has been converted to a searchable electronic format permitting you to easily search for index entries and then navigate to the desired page. The searchable index is in HTML format which runs within your computer's web browser. This allows you to have the searchable index and the Journal open simultaneously on your computer. The complete set is available to members for $79.95 -- less than $2.00 per volume or $0.50 per issue! Non-Members may purchase the set for $109.95. US postage is included in the cost of the set. For international shipping please add $3.00. To order a copy for your reference library, please visit the NRG's web site at: http://www.naut-res-guild.org/Products/cdrom.html, or call our office at 585-968-8111 (Monday-Friday 8 AM - 1 PM US Eastern Standard Time). Vince McCullough NRG Webmaster ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume