Subject: SMML VOL 2025 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 01:47:19 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Expedition Bismarck 2: Teak Decks 3: Re: scroll saw 4: Re: USS Wyoming 5: Mitsuwa 1/144 scale ship models 6: Re: Lifeboat Colours 7: Battlefield--Midway 8: Re: Midway TV presentation 9: List mate in Mannheim 10: John Collins 11: Re: Midway TV Presentation 12: RMS TITANIC et al ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Starline / Fleetline Subject: Re: Expedition Bismarck >> For those of you into bad movies: Sink the Bismarck!, History Channel, December 7th, 8:00pm and midnight. << You'll find if you tune into this "bad" movie, this is actually a not too bad documentary with the same name as the movie! IMHO the movie is great anyway, grew up with it and no doubt greatly influenced me into my love of warships. All the best, Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: NAVYDAZE Subject: Teak Decks A while back we had some discussion of the color of teak decks whether they were grey or tan. I came across a photo on the USS NORTH CAROLINA we site that show them installing new decks up against the old decks. I would assume that they are both teak. http://www.hazegray.org/features/bb55/bb55_62.jpg Michael Donegan NAVYDAZE Naval & Aviation Artist http://www.navydaze.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Re: scroll saw >> About Scroll saws...If you can afford it get the DeWalt 788 - I was at a craft fair this weekend - there were four vendors with scroll work on display and every single one of them used the DeWalt. It is by far the best of the mid level models, and it's parallel arm mechanism makes for wonderful accuracy! << Yes, the DeWalt is probably the best mid price scroller. Second would probably be the Porter Cable / Delta 40-570 at about half the price. Regards, Bradford Chaucer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Jim Warsher Subject: Re: USS Wyoming The man who was making inquiries about the Wyoming in her incarnation as AG-17 may not have seen this rather well-known photo taken 30 Apr 1945, sailing eastward to do her part on D-Day at Normandy. The Wyoming was not a brand-new ship in WWI! http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/013213.jpg There is a man, Dave Floyd, GMC [retired] who is a guide aboard the USS Slater at Albany, NY, and Dave trained aboard the Wyoming and knows her armament intimately. Dave is also very good about answering questions and is worth a visit. Jim Warsher ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Matthew Prager" Subject: Mitsuwa 1/144 scale ship models Hello fellow SMMLies, I recently saw several Mitsuwa 1/144 scale PT Boat kits for sale and was wondering about them. I haven't seen them before and would like to hear from anyone who has any experience with them as to their quality and accuracy. Thanks, Matt Prager ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Clive Lawford Subject: Re: Lifeboat Colours Hi Michael, My “Model Paint Codes” page at: http://home.online.no/~lawford/xrl/model-paint-codes.htm on my “44ft Motor Lifeboats” web site at http://home.online.no/~lawford/xrl/xrl.htm has details of the painting scheme for the Waveney class lifeboat and all the other boats of this type. The colours you mention are obviously for the modern boats, as yellow was not used earlier. Regards, Clive. 44ft Motor Lifeboats (RNLI Waveney Class) http://home.online.no/~lawford/xrl/xrl.htm Ramsgate Lifeboat http://home.online.no/~lawford/rl/rl.htm Clive's Family History Bookshelf http://home.online.no/~lawford/cfhb/cfhb.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Rod Dauteuil" Subject: Battlefield--Midway The PBS series "Battlefield" is not new. This show has been on for at least 8-10 years. I have always found this series to be a well documented and logically presented disection of the particular battles they profile. They discuss the leaders of both sides, the weapons they used, the order of battle, and the aftermath. They've had episodes on numerous battles and campaigns of WWII. On another note, regarding Trumpeter's 2003 releases in 1/350, I'll believe it when I see it. Rod ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: billkaja@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Midway TV presentation >> Some months back, I saw a show on TV giving a nice presentation of the action at the Battle of Midway. They had computer models of the carriers, showing where the bomb and torpedo hits were. 'Seems the series was called, "Battlefield". 'Don't recall the channel, but it might've been PBS (public television, for those outside the US). Does anyone remember the series? Does anyone have the Midway episode on tape? << The series is called "Battlefield". Our local PBS station seems to run it every winter for the past few years. It is one of my favorite series. The material on the eastern front is especially good-- they have lots of German and Soviet footage I've never seen before. I found the Pacific theatre episodes to be the weakest (but still OK), because they use the same old US Navy footage we've all seen a zillion times. (I think they're handicapped here, as I suspect there's lots more captured German footage than there is Japanese.) Bill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Andreas Bergauer" Subject: List mate in Mannheim to John Collins: Yes, I live in Mannheim, Germany. Let's see if I can help you. Why are you asking? Greetings, Andreas Bergauer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Uwe Besken Subject: John Collins Hi John, you want to know who is living near Mannheim/Ludwigshafen. I'm living ca. 70km from Mannheim. Is that "near"? You can contact me offlist using besken@gmx.de. Uwe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Robert Mosher" Subject: Re: Midway TV Presentation Randy - I caught that program too and was impressed by it, but did not recall the "Battlefield" name being attached to it. About 5-6 years ago, there was a series of programs under the "Battlefield" name that covered a number of the major European land battles of WWII in 2 hour programs that were similar in style and presentation - lots of original footage, good use of computer graphics. I taped all of them and later saw them on sale thru PBS and similar catalogues. Did not tape these latest because they caught me by surprise but definitely worth watching out for and taping. Robert A. Mosher www.CombatIC.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Fkbrown90 Subject: RMS TITANIC et al Here in Boston the History Channel recently ran two (back to back) good programs concerning the sinking of RMS TITANIC. The first was about the many hoaxes, false accusations, and media (the press) assassinations following the tragedy. It was followed by a new one featuring Ballard's complete search for TITANIC going back to his early days with Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (Institute?, I'm admittedly not sure as I sit at my keyboard) and the Navy's hitherto unpublicized participation. It seems that the History Channel is unable to present a program, regardless of subject matter, without inject some form of ludicrous incompetence. Their contribution this time was, in the first show, a genuine newsreel scene of people boarding a turn-of-the-century passenger ocean liner, with a voice-over saying "All Abooooaaard" in the best of railroad fashion!!!! Hoo-Boy!! What ever happened to the gong-banging young assistant steward boys roaming the passenger decks just prior to cast-off time, shouting "All ashore that's going ashore"? This was to inform those stay-behinds who often attended embarking parties in the passengers' cabins that it was indeed time to leave the ship, whether the trip was a cruise or a crossing. Yeah, I know, "picky picky" but if they mess up so many things I am sure about, how can I trust their presentations of things I am not familiar with? Bob Ballard is one of my (few) American heroes, along with (in no particular order) Walt Disney, Rachel Carson (Silent Spring), Ralph Nader, Henry Ford, Lindbergh (most of the time), Abraham Lincoln, The Founding Fathers, etc. Personally, I have mixed emotions about removing artifacts from TITANIC. Basically I deplore so doing for exploitation, but having seen the exhibit in Greenwich I am glad to have had the opportunity. Perhaps limiting such harvesting and restoration for legitimate nonprofit museums and research organizations might be an acceptable compromise. I feel the same way about HUNLEY and MONITOR. This does NOT include such ridiculous travesties as the early Telly Savalas-hosted TV stage production of some of TITANIC's retrieved articles. Comments, SMML people? Franklyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume