Subject: SMML VOL 2039 Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 14:41:59 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Monitor gun arrangements 2: 1/700 flags 3: Re: USCG Cutters 4: Interesting items on eBay 5: Re: USS Monssen in 1/350 scale 6: Still more on USCG cutters - addendum -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Secure Online Ordering NOW AVAILABLE! 2: More Aircraft Colours ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Re: Monitor gun arrangements >>> However recoil was used to return the gun to the loading position, and also close the port stopper << Bradford, Can you cite your reference for the above statement? Both contemporary engravings and plans show the port stoppers being raised and lowered by a plain ol' block and tackle arrangement. Interestingly, when one port stopper was raised it blocked the other so only one gun could be fired at a time. <<< Would you accept poor eyesight?? :-) I just reviewed my source for the above and realized that I misread the text, see below: >> Thick iron pendulums (or port stoppers) that hung from the overhead protected the gun-port openings. Crew swung the port stoppers out of the way when they ran the cannon out for firing and dropped them back into place on recoil to protect themselves from enemy fire. << You are correct, each port was raised and lowered by a block and tackle. And yes, because they pivoted inward (toward the centerline) only one port could be opened at a time. Regards, Bradford Chaucer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Sab1156 Subject: 1/700 flags Does anyone knows,who makes or sells admiral flags or standards in 1/700 scale for the german navies? Thanks in advance Detlef Hartwig ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Dain Webster" Subject: Re: USCG Cutters Mr. Baca was very accurate in his interpretations of CG vessels. Only thing to note is that "boats" under 100 feet are numbered but with few exceptions remain unnamed. When at a CG station the boats are usually referred to by their last two numbers. The first two numbers indicate a class of vessel and the boat's length. 41220 would be a 41 foot utility boat and at the station referred to as "20". If you are in need of true CG colors most boats / cutters spill more than you would ever need to finish a small model. Their compatibility with plastics and resins may be a problem, but if you live close by and need a thimble of paint I'm sure someone would clean a brush out into your paint pot! H2oSmokey Master Chief Petty Officer (Retired) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) paulship37 Subject: Interesting items on eBay I saw these items for sale at eBay Warships of WWII : Trawlers : Lenton 1963 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1975318416 German Warships of WWI : Taylor 1969 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1975308572 Austro-Hungari Warships of WWI : Greger 1976 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1975303826 Airfis H.M.S. Cossack - unmade kit http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1920394213 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Devin J. Poore" Subject: Re: USS Monssen in 1/350 scale >> high bridge and no front overhang. But you need the twin torpedo mid superstructure of the USS Tillman. You could start with a Tillman, but be aware that it represents a later version with a reduced height bridge so you will need the Aaron Wards bridge. Try contacting Blue Water Navy and see if they will mix and match parts for you. I know they have done this for others in the past. << I did this very thing to get a USS Laffey "kit" from Blue Water Navy. They were very helpful and had no problems making a mix and match kit for me. Devin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: MGFoster Subject: Still more on USCG cutters - addendum I was a CG radioman at the 8th district primary radio station (New Orleans, LA) from 1970 to 1973. Comments interspresed: "Victor M. Baca" wrote: >> I've been informed over the years by Coast Guard personnel that they refer to their vessels as cutters if those ships and/or boats are assigned a permanent crew with accomodations allowing the crew to live aboard while on patrol or housed permanently on the cutter if it is large enough. The "cutter" designation is bestowed regardless of the vessel's length if it follows the guidelines. << I never heard of this. We always called all boats/ships "cutters." We would call (on the radio) a 40 footer as, e.g., "Coast Guard 40423", and refer to it as "423" or "Cutter 423" once contact had been made. Cutters with names were called "Coast Guard Cutter ." >> The Coast Guard often refers to vessels other than officially designated cutters as either vessel, boat or, of course, by the boat's official type designator such as UTB, UTM, MLB etc. << Perhaps the PIO (Public Information Officer) used the type designator, but, amongst ourselves we referred to all vessels by their length. E.g.: "A 210" for a MEC (Medium Endurance Cutter); "A 378" for a HEC (High Endurance Cutter); "A 82 footer" for a Point Class cutter; etc. Buoy tenders were referred to by their length and "buoy tender" tagged at the end: "A 180 buoy tender." The Life Boats were just being introduced on the Northwest coast when I got out so I never heard how they were refered to in our work-a-day life. >> In Model Ship Journal, we respectfully refer to all U.S. Coast Guard cutters as USCGC followed by their full name and hull number: USCGC Westwind (WAGB-281). Ancillary craft are referred to as "USCG" with their hull number following: USCG PWB-32344 or simply PWB-32344 after the first full reference. In many official USCG reports and references, the full title USCGC is sometimes shortened to CGC (Coast Guard Cutter). << For official designations, I agree. >> To the general public, though, all USCG vessels are thought of as cutters << Perhaps that's because the Coasties they came in contact with always referred to them as cutters. Of course, my recollections are 30 yrs old. Things change... Rgds, MGFoster:::mgf Oakland, CA (USA) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Lorna @ SANDLE Hobbies Subject: Secure Online Ordering NOW AVAILABLE! Yup. We now have secure online ordering to make it even easier for customers both old and new to order from us. Just in time for .....WEM's Colourcoats for both the USN Aircraft colours and the extra WW2 RN colours are now in stock ... and the REALLY big news .... OzMods 1/350 Daring Class destroyer HMAS Vampire is back! The wait is finally over - get yours now. Cheers Lorna Jenkins SANDLE Hobbies http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: John Snyder Subject: More Aircraft Colours We've just taken delivery of another batch of Colourcoats, including two more naval aircraft colours: ACUS07, WW2 USN Sea Blue ACUS08, WW2 USN Intermediate Blue Straight from the tin, Sea Blue is Semi-Gloss Sea Blue. For Non-Specular Sea Blue, give it a coat of Matt Varnish (Colourcoats VM). For Glossy Sea Blue, give it a coat of Gloss Varnish (Colourcoats VG). The combination of Glossy Sea Blue, Semi-Gloss Sea Blue, Intermediate Blue, and Non-Specular White (still to come) will give you the three-colour scheme that followed the earlier two-colour scheme. 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