Subject: SMML VOL 2082
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 16:54:51 +1100

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MODELLERS INDEX

1: BB-62 Model Article
2: VCR Alert Australia
3: Rusty White, White Ensign and FSM!
4: Arizona Super Set
5: Re: LSD models
6: HP Models
7: USS Dixie
8: 1/400 BEARN Kit - Some Comments
9: Aircraft Canopies
10: PE for Vosper MTB & RAF Rescue Launch
11: Re: Aircraft Canopies
12: Re: Hand Scanners and Plans
13: Re: Izumo/Iwate
14: Flying Boat correction
15: anti aircraft weaponry on "chant"
16: Re: Any Britannic fans out there?
17: Re: Izumo
18: KGV Paint Question
19: Re: 'Warspite' Hull Sections

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From: pnwa1
Subject: BB-62 Model Article

 Hello all,

 I am attempting to locate the following article written by Loren Perry entited: Model Monograph USS New Jersey, Jan 1985 in the Scale Ship Modeler magazine. Anyone know of a copy posted online or that could be scanned for myself? I have had no luck in locating a copy of the issue and the author doesn't have one either.

 Thanks....

 Bob
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From: "Michael Kear" <mkear@modelwarship.com>
Subject: VCR Alert Australia

 For the Australians  ... .

 The Australian ABC network is starting screening "Hornblower" again starting at 8.30pm this Sunday. Time to get your VCRs checked folks.

 Cheers,
 Mike Kear
 Windsor, NSW, Australia
 Webmaster, Model Warship 72
 www.modelwarship.com
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From: NedWriter
Subject: Rusty White, White Ensign and FSM!

 On my flight from Vegas to SFO to visit a client, I was reading the latest FSM - and was (as always) blown away by the quality of Rusty's work and the cottage folks at WEM for the moulding and PE and all that they produce. What a team-up.

 To the folks at WEM, and to Rusty, a big-league tip of the hat from the envious and admiring Ned Barnett ...
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From: NedWriter@aol.com
Subject: Arizona Super Set

>> The new Pennsylvania Class Super Set is now available for the 1/350 Arizona models now on the market. Everything is computer designed and test-fitted using our 3D CAD technology. The set features some of the best 3D instructions in the business and are VERY easy to read and follow. It's a HUGE set with many, many details to your Arizona kit justice. You can order and see the set on the new Flagship Models web site at:

 http://flagshipmodels.com

 On to the Yorktown Class Super Set! <<

 Rusty

 I'm broke right now, but that won't last. Please "put a set aside" for me <g> (or be ready to make me up another if you run out) for as soon as I'm not broke. Can't wait to sink my teeth into and scar my fingertips on that super-set.

 All the best

 Ned
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From: RCClem@aol.com
Subject: Re: LSD models

 Carmine Pacilio asked:

>> Looking for a model of a LSD USS LINDENWALD #6, BUILT IN 1943. Can anyone help? (1/350 scale) <<

 My Dad's landing craft Boat and Shore Battalion was carried around the South Pacific on the LSD 3 USS Carter Hall, and others. I have the Lindberg model of the LSD 26 (USS Tortuga ??). Motorized! Although the box says 1" = 10' - 6" or 1/126 scale, that cannot be correct. This very interesting class of ships was 458 ft long with a beam of 72 ft. The kit measures closer to 1/288 scale (1" = 24ft). I don't know if anyone makes a PE set for this scale. The kit could use some highly detailed railings, ladders, hatches, radars, guns, rafts, cranes, props, vents, anchors, masts, etc.

 Roger Clemens
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From: "F. Pletscher"
Subject: HP Models

 After examining and building several HP models, my opinion is - and I was confirmd by some other modelers -  that HP models are simply not worth their price. If you don`t care too for accuracy, and if you don't mind to do a good deal of filling and sanding, and if you are prepared to replace the small parts, then they might be alright for you. But you will only get mass production quality basic kit for a high quality kit price.

 Falk Pletscher
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From: "Gerry and Jana Radice"
Subject: USS Dixie

 I have built this kit it is outstanding The P/E is really amazing and the ship itself is great it takes some experience to build but once you get it together it is beautiful! I liked it so much I bought the Fulton and the Vulcan

 have a great day

 Gerry
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From: "F. Pletscher"
Subject: 1/400 BEARN Kit - Some Comments

 My L'Arsenal/Navires & Histoire kit of the French aircraft carrier Béarn arrived just on Christmas Eve - right in time to spend most of the Holiday Season with examining and dry-fitting. So here are my first comments:

 The kit consits of some 80 injection molded plastic parts, some 70 resin parts, and some 100 PE parts. Besides the parts for the ship, there are also 11 aircraft (Four Dewoitine D-373, three Levaseur PL-101, three Levaseur PL-7) which are in fact small kits of their own, consisting each of 6 resin parts and PE parts for struts, undercarriage, propellors and hooks. Reportedly, the first 300 kits also have 2 additional L'Arsenal aircraft sets (five Loire Nieuport LN 40/41 and five Vought 156) as a bonus. The injection molded parts may look a bit crude, but they are at least of the same standard as Heller parts. However ,their fitting could be better. The resin parts and the PE frets apply to the quality standards of L'Arsenal.

 The flight deck, which was planked, is plain, so I guess I will engrave the planking on my model. I will also add the armor belt to the hull, to give some more detailing. The platforms and catwalks are rather thick. But one can easily disguise this by cementing the PE railings to the front, rather than putting them on the top side. The portholes look a bit oversized. This can be helped by drilling them through with a slightly smaller diameter. A more serious problem is the after battery. The 155 mm "turrets" (in fact they are only shields) should sit on a small barbette, like those of the fore battery. You can supplement these missing parts with discs cut from plastic sheet. But you can not carve out the deck above this battery deeply enought to fit the guns. So you also have to raise this deck a bit, which requires some additional filling and sanding.

 The great advantage of this kit is also responsible for its weak spot. You can build Béarn in different fittings, and this obviously resulted in some mix-up. The ventilation grills beneeth the island show the state of 1936. For the appearance before the 1934/35 refit, the fore section of these grills has to be filled and sanded over. The structure underneeth the fore flight deck applies only for the appearance of 1930-34. After the 1934/35 refit, there was another enclosed deck hung beneeth the flight deck, as is clearly shown on the box top art. The bridge is correct for the 1927 and 1930 state. For the 1936 state, the upper bridge platform (PP 33) should be longer and broader.

 After all these critics, you must not forget, that this kit is a first effort. And from this point of view it is pretty well done. Taking in account, that you would have to pay about 150% of its price for a 1/700 resin kit of a comparable aircraft carrier from HP (which would need most probably the same amount of corrections and working over), this kit also is a real bargain. So despite some drawbacks, I would regard this kit as pretty recommendable.

 Since L'Arsenal has shown in the past that they are able to learn very quickly, you can be sure that their next kits will be greatly improved.

 Falk Pletscher
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From: "John Rule"
Subject: Aircraft Canopies

>> With all the talk about the aircraft on the new hornet kit, the future release of the Essex class carrier and it's aircraft, I was wondering what color are you all using to paint the canopies. I will be getting ready to paint the Kingfisher aircraft on my latest cruiser project and I haven't been too happy with the results of other float planes canopies that I have painted. The more advice/recommendations the better. <<

 In 700 scale I have used dark blue mixed with silver. It looks quite effective in that scale especially with gloss or semi-gloss paint. I'm not sure about 350 scale but would imagine it would still be effective. If you have a dealer in your area sells Corgi 1:144 scale diecast aircraft, take a look at the HP Victor or the C-130 which have painted glazing which is a mid blue grey colour and looks very effective.

 Hope this helps.

 Sincerely,

 John Rule
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From: "Timothy Connelly"
Subject: PE for Vosper MTB & RAF Rescue Launch

 Hello:

 Does anyone know if anyone makes Photo-etched parts for the Revell(AG) Vosper MTB and the Airfix Air/Sea Rescue Launch?

 Tim
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From: "Devin"
Subject: Re: Aircraft Canopies

 Roger,

 I may be insane, but since Trumpeter has gone through the trouble of giving us clear canopies, I plan on using them. I'll probably use them to stretch form thinner and clearer versions, as I plan on doing some sort of cockpit detail in those aircraft. Looking at them in the box, it won't be difficult to remove the "deck" as molded in and provide a rudimentary seat and instrument panel.

 Yes, I know how nuts that sounds.

 Devin
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From: "Devin"
Subject: Re: Hand Scanners and Plans

 Thanks to all who have had suggestions about the plan scanning. It turns out to be a moot question, as it doesn't appear as if they are even produced anymore. I'll give the Kinko's a look (I had no idea they would do actual scans, I thought only copies), and worse case, I'll do the section scans using my flatbed scanner and past them together with Photoshop.

 Devin
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From: Masashi Ito
Subject: Re: Izumo/Iwate

 Hi, Darius and Gernot.

 Thank you for your reviews on the Izumo kit! By the way, I happened to find (through HLJ) the website of Interallied, the company releasing Seals Models kits. It is "http://www.interallied.co.jp". HOWEVER, I couldn't find any information on their ship models! Why is that??

 Masashi Ito
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From: Loren Perry <goldmedl@rockisland.com>
Subject: Flying Boat correction

>> Glencoe reissued the Martin and Boeing Clipper boats and the Republic Seabee a few years ago. <<

 Actually, Glencoe released the Martin M-130 Pan Am Clipper flying boat in approximately 1/144 scale (close, but not quite) and it originally issued, I believe, by Strombecker several decades back. Airfix produced an excellent Boeing 314 Clipper in 1/144 scale many years ago and it's still available today as part of the Minicraft Aircraft of the Presidents set. The Martin kit is pretty fair but lacks the corrugations in the lower fuselage and the airfoil of the wing is pretty thick toward the trailing edge. Overall, though, it's a pretty accurate kit in outline although some of the detailing is a little soft. The Airfix kit is outstanding and extremely accurate with outstanding engraved detailing, but the decals are somewhat incomplete with just the bare minimum of markings.
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From: "Alan Thomson"
Subject: anti aircraft weaponry on "chant"

 Hi,

 I am trying to assist a friend who is constructing a model of an invasion channel tanker of 1944 ( Chant).The information being sought is what anti aircraft weaponry ,if any ,was fitted to these vessels?

 Any information would be most appreciated.

 Regards

 Alan Thomson
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From: Randy Ward
Subject: Re: Any Britannic fans out there?

 The nice lady at Discovery told me that the show will be re-broadcast on March 19th. 'Looks like that's the way to go. (On the 19th, I should be visiting the SS United States, but the VCR will be on.)

 I'm pleased that they've had several good shows on recently, including "Death of the Arizona", "Superships" (mostly on the Voyager of the Seas), and James Cameron's production on the Bismarck.

 Randy
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From: "D.Przezdziecki"
Subject: Re: Izumo

 Hi Gernot,

 You write:

>> ...I agree about the platforms, which are also overly thick, probably that is what makes them too high?... <<

 It's a combination of factors: platforms are too thick and they sit a bit too high above the boat deck. My mesurement was from the top of the boat deck to the bottom of the bridge platforms so the thickness of the platforms was not included. I could also add that bridge platforms didn't rest on the top of conning towers. There should be about 1mm (in 1/700 scale) gap between tower's roofs and platform above.

 G.H.:

>> ...I can suggest a small deck that links the bridge to the main mast also, as far as I could tell from photos... <<

 I am not exactly sure what deck you have in mind since the "catwalk" connecting both bridges is present in the kit. Can you elaborate???

 G.H.:

>> ...The ventilators don't seem to sit at the right height, but I could not figure out exactly what is incorrect... <<

 I haven't progressed that far yet, will check it out asap.

 G.H.:

>> ...You mention the 1st volume of "Anathomy of Japanese Battleships". What series is this, and who is the author. If it is Japanese, I would enjoy having a look at it at my leisure.

 BTW, have fun thinning the davits :-)... <<

 It isn't a series, just two volumes of this title and they are indeed in Japanese. The second volume deals with machinery and other topics that I am not interested in but the first one includes drawings of Japanese battleships 1895-1945  and (goody, goody) all armoured cruisers and some cruisers from 1895-1904 period. It is a "must" reference to early Japanese warships IMO. I got my copy from Pacific Front Hobbies but, if you think about buying it elswhere, I can send you a scan of the cover.

 And NO  I am not fiddling about with davits :-), I am replacing the whole lot with new ones made from thin brass rod.

 Best wishes

 Darius
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From: "Stephen Varhegyi"
Subject: KGV Paint Question

 I'd love some guidance as to official paint colours/ scheme for the HMS King George V in the Bismarck engagement.

 I was going to use Humbrol Medium sea gray, Dark Sea Gray for the armoured centre section of the hull, RAF Blue for superstructure decking and turret tops. Insignia Red for bottom of Hull. Do these colours sound about right?

 Some pictures I've seen indicate that the Hull armoured centre section was white with green disruptive camouflage bands, any ideas?

 Thanks

 Steve Varhegyi
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From: BK Dean
Subject: Re: 'Warspite' Hull Sections

 Derek

 If in your research with Naval Archives fails to turn up anything, which is very possible, an alternative to Original Blueprints would be to purchase a model of the ship. Airfix has a 1/600 scale available of H.M.S. 'Warspite.' The paint scheme in the instructions call for either 1915 or 1940, so I assume the hull design has not changed significantly enough to warrant endless research. But if you are adamant about this accuracy, from there you could check the Naval Archives to find out what refitting or major redesign occurred between 1917 and 1940, most particularly, Belt Armor, which for most battleships consisted of the removal of torpedo nets and the addition of 8 to 15 inches of Belt Armor just above the waterline.

 In any event, build the model up, just the Hull and Deck. Use a flexible glue, not a brittle glue (like some epoxies can tend to cure to). Using a bandsaw with very fine TPI (Teeth Per Inch), maybe 32-60 TPI, you are going to cut your "research model" into cross sections. Be sure all cross sections are strait and at proper angle. You will want to make multiple cuts across the hull at intervals that will give you an accurate picture of the cross sections of the 'Warspite's hull. Before making the cuts, tape the hull at the locations you want to cut, you can use regular cellophane tape, to see the lines drawn on the model. This is to prevent any 
splintering that the bandsaw may want to cause. 15 to 20 sections can be cut at equally measured intervals.

 When you finish this step, you can trace or Xerox the hull cross sections onto paper, that can then be scanned, or simply resized (enlarged or reduced) on the Xerox to the desired scale. As for the refitted or redesigned Belt Armor, obtaining photos of the 'Warspite's look "above the water" for belt design and work in scale for thickness of the Belt (Refitting details in Archives will mention how much armor was added).

 Hope that helps you with your project.

 BKD
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From: BarbaraZimm@aol.com
Subject: Kits for sale

 Hi -

 I'm the immediate past president of the Philadelphia Ship Model Society. We had a number of kits donated to the PSMS and I would appreciate it if you could list them on your website. The list is below and also as an attachment, for your convenience.

 These kits have been donated to the Philadelphia Ship Model Society. by one of our members. All proceeds benefit the PSMS. The prices are below current store prices and include shipping. We appreciate your bringing the list to the attention of your members.

 Thank you.
 Mike Zimmerman,
 Past President, PSMS

 Contact information is:
 Mike Zimmerman
 732 Weadley Rd.
 Wayne, PA 19087
 610-964-8455 barbarazimm@aol.com

 Model Type Mfr.              Scale        Price

 Wood Kits: 

 Al Bahran Dhow Corel 36 1/50 140
 Albatross Baltimore clipper Mantua 771 1/40 55
 Bellona Ship-of-line Corel 54 1/100 120
 Berlin 1680 Ship Corel SM29 1/40 130
 Blue Shadow Brig Mamoli MV22 1/64 65
 Bonhomme Richard Frigate Aeropiccola 1/50 195
 Bounty Ship Marine Model 109 1/50 170
 Catalan Ship Medieval ship Imai B-710 1/30 220
 1741 Chesapeake Sloop Shipyard Crafts 300 1/120 40
 Chinese Pirate Junk Amati AM 1421 1/45 70
 Constitution Frigate Mamoli MV 31 1/93 120
 Constitution Frigate Mantua 779 1/98 160
 Constitution Frigate Marine Model 1093 1/128 270
 Constitution Frigate BlueJacket 1018R 1018 270
 Cutty Sark Clipper Marine Model 1109 1/128 145
 Cutty Sark Clipper Sterling D5 1/140 100
 Dallas US Revenue Cutter Art. Latina 402 1/50 55
 Endeavor Bark Mamoli 47 1/100 55
 Essex mid section Aeropiccola 1/96 120
 Flying Fish Schooner Corel 19 1/50 170
 Kate Cory Whaling Brig Model Shipways 2031 1/50 130
 La Candelaria French Mortar ship Dikar 751 1/65 220
 Lexington Brig Mamoli 48 1/100 60
 Maria 19th Cent. fishing ever Billing 552 1/33 95
 Mayflower Caravel Billing 801 1/60 115
 Norske Love Ship w fittings Billing 473 1/75 195
 Pandora Frigate Constructo 80824 1/85 85
 Red Dragon Chinese Junk Art. Latina 20407 1/60 55
 Regina Dutch Jagt Billing 800 1/30 95
 Robert E. Lee Paddlewheel steamer Model Shipways 1439 1/150 145
 Royal Louis Ship-of-line Mamoli MV40 1/90 220
 Santa Lucia Sicilian boat Banart 004 1/30 170
 Santa Maria Columbus Mamoli 42 1/50 120
 Serapis Frigate Aeropiccola 504SE 1/60 270
 Sultana Schooner Model Shipways 2016 1/64 55
 Victory Ship-of-line Sergal/Mantua  1/78 170
 Wappen von Hamburg Ship-of-line Corel SM28 1/40 220
 Whaleboat New Bedford Marine Model 1069 1/24 65
 Whaleboat C.W. Morgan's Art. Latina 20020 1/25 72

 Plastic Kits:

 Constitution Frigate Revell H386:1200 1/96 80
 Cutty Sark Clipper Revell H364-9.95 1/96 120
 Firefighter Fireboat Revell 85-5029 1/87 30
 Flying Cloud Clipper Revell H-344:298 1/250 40
 King George V Battleship MPC 1-5252 1/600 30
 Thermopylae Clipper Revell H-390:1195 1/96 80
 Victory Ship-of-line Revell H-363:298 1/250 40

 Thanks for your help in supporting the PSMS.

 Mike Zimmerman
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From: "Rod Dauteuil"
Subject: Flying boats for sale

 With all this talk about flying boats, I thought it would be good to mention I have a couple on auction right now. My ebay username is c177guy and here's what I presently have:

 Revell PBY-5 Catalina (Early USN, silver with Chrome Yellow wing tops)
 Glencoe Republic Seabee (totally molded in clear plastic)
 Glencoe Martin M130 China Clipper (with markings for a USN version)

 Write me with any questions.

 Rod
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