Subject: SMML VOL 2106 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:04:27 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Nichrome Wire Company 2: Adhesives 3: Deck Seams 4: Ekaterina II Class Deck Planking 5: Re: Furiously flabbergasted 6: Maritime History in Miniature 7: Petr Vielikij 8: Casablanca shafts 9: Interesting items on eBay 10: Re: Bismarck?'s/Night Diorama Hints 11: RN Gun Shields 12: Piggyback Airmail Aircraft -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: New Hornet PE and aircraft decal sets ready ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: brya1716 Subject: Re: Nichrome Wire Company Brett Morrow asked about Pelican Wire. Brett try: http://www.pelicanwire.com/ No pelicans in OZ when I was last there, but birds & wire available in the USofA Best regards, Bill Bryant ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Marvin Reichman Subject: Adhesives I will be using resin parts in conjunction with the construction of plastic ship model and would like some advise on the best form of adhesive to use. Thanks for your help. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Kelvin Mok Subject: Deck Seams I have been using a Golden (brand name) Acrylic Molding Paste from the artists' supplies stores for filling in seams and gaps. It has the constituency of a smooth paste made from Plaster of Paris, is water soluble and can be hand brushed on across a seam to fill it. The excess molding paste on the surfaces around the seam is easily brushed off or wiped off with a rag. The clean up is like removing a thin smear of Plaster of Paris under the same circumstances. Even after the molding paste is dried a light sanding will remove the excess paste to restore the the original plastic surface. The acrylic binder of the molding paste that fills the seam adheres to the plastic and is slightly flexible. Therefore it will not crack or flake off. The molding paste is fully compatible with any type of model paint and the painted plastic will appear homogeneous. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "F. Pletscher" Subject: Ekaterina II Class Deck Planking Darius P. asked >> ... can you tell me if the fore/aft running stripes are paralel along their whole lenght??? Aleksander II forecastle is planked in similar way: long strips fore/aft and planks atwartship but the stripes aren't paralel but form "sunrays" pattern fanning out towards the bow. << They were truely paralel. Just have a look on that photo on http://irn1.homestead.com/files/Misc/Sinop.jpg which Vladimir pointed out. It is one of those in Arbusov's book Falk Pletscher ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Devin J. Poore" Subject: Re: Furiously flabbergasted Okay, someone is reading my mind, and it had better stop! I was just thinking this past week how the Furious in her first modification as a carrier was one of the most unique looking warships, and that someone should make a model of her. Of course I had hoped for my favorite scale of 1/350th, but hey, I'll take her in the tiny scale too. Can't wait. Devin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Jimmyjb Subject: Maritime History in Miniature I appreciate all of the comments about my inauguration into ship modeling by way of the Gowland Creations flotilla. I have prepared a small article expanding on my experiences and how it led to my present post-retirement career in naval and military historical writing. Hopefully this might tie in with the inquiries about "beginners" and how to maintain their interest. Jim Bloom ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "D.Przezdziecki Subject: Petr Vielikij Leafing throu Ovsiannikov's and Arbuzov's books about "Petr Vielikij" I could not help wandering just what possibly could have been thinking behind Russian 1903 project to take a 1870's vintage "monitor-cruiser" and modernise it so totally (at quite considerable expence in time and money) that the resulting gunnery training ship "Petr Vielikij" bore no resemblance what-so-ever to its predecessor??? After all Russians weren't short of obsolescent ships so would it be more economical (and sensible) to pick one of their first generation armoured cruisers like "Pamiat Azova" (turned into training ship in 1909), "Donskoj" or "Monomakh"??? Or, if they thought that battleship would have been more suitable, why not pick any of the "Ekaterinas", "Imp.Aleksander II" or "Imp.Nikolay I"??? Best wishes Darius ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Keith Bender" Subject: Casablanca shafts HI SMMLies, This is for AL Ross and all the other SMMLies who are or who did build a Casablanca class CVE. I have talked to Al Ross about it a few years ago about what he shows in the AOTS book. His drawings come from the mico film at the National Archives. I've seen it for myself. The drawings do show the shafts with a ( V ) strut at the end next to the prop. They also show you a "bossing" or "housing" that covers the entire shaft like most ocean liners have. This arrangement with both aplications I haven't seen before on any ship so the question always remained, plain shafts or bossings / housings? The only time I talked to Al about it he didn't know either so he printed what drawings they had and that's the best he could do , good job Al. I now have a photo from the archives that show this area, starboard side shaft and prop looking aft from under the hull. They do have the "bossing / housing" and a strut at the end. The strut brace that is visible is the end that faces up and outward. The inner brace blends in with the bossing / housing and they DO have four bladed props not three. I still live in the stone age and do not have a scanner so I can't print this photo. If anyone is interested I can photocopy it for you, just send me a self address stamped envelope. Here is the photo number. ( 80-CASA# 425 ) photo dated 7/9/44 at the Todd Shipyard, Seattle, WA. And that is all the information given on the photo page. E mail me for my address at propmeup@att.net Keith ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: paulship37 Subject: Interesting items on eBay I saw these items for sale at eBay: HELLER 1:400 ARROMANCHES/COLOSSUS http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3109560889 STROMBECKER PF TACOMA CLASS MODEL(WOODEN)1949 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3110912637 Hornet,Aircraft Carrier,Flat Top,History,1943 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2908044196 THE STORY OF MIDGET SUBMARINES http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2908064939 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: Bismarck?'s/Night Diorama Hints >> are these the SAME as the Lufwaffe colors of the same name? << Hi Brooks I have no earthly idea. You'd have to give me the RAL references for the Luftwaffe colors. Best, John Snyder The Token Yank White Ensign Models Home Page for WEM, http://WhiteEnsignModels.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "M Brown" Subject: RN Gun Shields Does anyone know the colours used inside the gunshields of RN destroyers in the 50s & 60s?. The shields in the RN's museum show the gun as red. Other photos show the inside of the shield as white. The RAN practice guns mounted on the headlands in Victoria used to be this colour but the ship board ones were overall grey, brass etc. Photos from the RN Museum attached to show what I mean. Michael Brown Hi all, The photos have been uploaded to the SMML site in the Misc Reference Page under References. Shane ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Katz, Gene S" Subject: Piggyback Airmail Aircraft I saw photos of a multi-engine flying boat that carried another aircraft (seaplane with floats) on its back. I think it was a French or British idea to get airmail expedited along their colonial empire, but I'm not sure. Anybody know if they used ships as tenders or as guides? Looked like the mother aircraft would fly until it was within flying range of the smaller speedier floatplane, which was then launched to fly in the airmail. Hi Gene, The aircraft you saw was the Short Mayo Composite consisting of the Short S.21 Maia (which was a converted C Class flying boat) and the Short S.20 Mercury riding on top. You are correct in your summation about it's operation - though it didn't last long in service. It only did a handful of flights before Imperial Airways ceased using it due to prohibitive costs and it the fact it had a small payload. I'm not sure about what if any ships were used as tenders or guides. Shane ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Loren Perry Subject: New Hornet PE and aircraft decal sets ready Gold Medal Models all-new 1/350 scale photoetched detail sets for the Trumpeter USS Hornet and the WW2 U.S. Navy aircraft are now available. The Gold PLUS Hornet extra detail set is still a few weeks away from release. Finally, the new decal for the Trumpeter 1/350 scale USN carrier aircraft is now available. Review samples have already been sent out. For more information on these new items go to the What's New section of the GMM webpage: www.goldmm.com Be advised that demand for the main Hornet set (GMM No. 350-21) is very heavy right now and that almost all of our first batch has already been ordered by and shipped to overseas dealers who have paid for them in advance. But more are coming on a regular basis so any delays due to back-orders should be kept to less than a week. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume