Subject: SMML VOL 2110 Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:24:56 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Japanese & Soviet MTBs 2: Nichrome 3: USS Saratoga/Rochester 4: How do you paint? 5: Re: Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 6: Re: Info on ACR USS Saratoga/USS Rochester 7: Re: 3M Acryl-Blue 8: Re: Type 12 decks 9: Re: Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 10: Re: Ticonderoga Class Cruisers 11: 3 part question 12: New Books from Floating Drydock 13: magazine review: International Naval News - warship 14: Re: Diorama protection 15: Emco Unimat 4 Lathe 16: Nicknames -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Re: Silk Purse/RN Destroyer 2: Re: Japanese and Soviet MTBs 3: February Internet Modeler ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: ALROSS2 Subject: Re: Japanese & Soviet MTBs This winter, I picked up a Russian language book entitled "Fire Torpedoes" that includes a lot of line drawings, primarily of Soviet MTBs. Some illustrations appear to have been lifted from other publications (including one of mine...grrrr), but most are new to me. Unfortunately, I can't read Russian, so I can't make any comments on the accuracy of the text. This book is available through Atlantic Crossroads Inc., PO Box 144, Tenafly, NJ 07670, (www.collectrussia.com). The primary contact there is Vlad Yantovski (igor@collectrussia.com). Al Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: John Wressell Subject: Nichrome Thanks for the help on the Nichrome gauge size. John Wressell ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: GKingzett Subject: USS Saratoga/Rochester Re: David Gregory's request for information about ACR 2, the former New York. Ivan Musicant, in his book, US Armored Cruisers, published by Naval Institute Press, says that in a refit in 1905 she was fitted with two spindly pole masts tall enough to carry wireless antennae, which she carried the rest of her life. The 2 - 3" AA weapons were installed on the aft end of the boat deck in a refit at Bremerton in 1917, prior to being transferred to the Atlantic Fleet for the remainder of WWI. Unfortunately, the book does not mention wartime paint schemes, and none of the pictures are of that specific time. His coverage of her career is quite extensive, text and pictures, probably makes it worth while to look at the book. Gary ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: airartcsb Subject: How do you paint? I know this is a silly question. However you all know how puckered ship modelers are about details. So here it is, what is the color scheme for searchlights for the USS Arizona 1941? C.S.Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Darren Scannell Subject: Re: Ticonderoga Class Cruisers >> I'm currently building the 1:350 Dragon USS Bunker Hill. I noticed that on the Bow they have raised detail for three portals on each side. Two round ones and a rounded elongated one in the middle. I studied some photos I found on photovault and they appear to be hollowed out but it's hard to make out. Does anyone know a bit about Ticonderoga Class Cruisers and if I should hollow these portals out? << Steve, They are holes for the ropes to go through when the ship is tied up beside a dock or other ship. Hawser holes? is that right? Anyway, some ships have doors that swing over them and block incoming water, but the Tico's I've seen don't appear to be fitted like that, so if you want to be accurate, then open them up. Round the edges if you can. The oval one has a double roller mechanism in front of it to allow the rope to make a 90 degree turn toward the double bit it ties to. I can provide a good photo if you'd like. Darren Scannell ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Kevin Woodruff Subject: Re: Info on ACR USS Saratoga/USS Rochester Dave: >> 1) Did she have a cage mast like the Tenessee and Pennsylvania class ACRs? << No she retained her "military" pole masts >> 2) Where were her two 3" AA guns mounted? << On the boat deck aft ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Ken Goldman" Subject: Re: 3M Acryl-Blue I have to disagree with Doug Bauer regarding the use of lacquer thinner versus acetone to thin Acryl-Blue. It has been my experience that acetone does less damage to polystyrene because it is more volitile than lacquer thinner. The latter has more time to eat into the plastic. I have successfully used acetone directly to tack down stretched sprue "weld seams" before making them permanent with Ambroid Weld or some other plastic solvent. If the seam looked crooked or out of position before I made it permanent, it was a simple matter to flick it off with a finger nail and try again. The worst damage that ever happened to the plastic surface by doing this was buffed out with #0000 steel wool. Ken Goldman ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: joe.sus Subject: Re: Type 12 decks There's been several mentions recently of type 12 frigates. I'd like to reconstitute my type 12 collection using modern methods and materials. Can anyone tell me about the form of raised deck patterns on the foredeck? Most photos that are sharp enough to show such detail seem to indicate several variations: 1) bars not quite matching the details on the Airfix Leander, 2) diagonal cross hatching, 3) none at all, except the usual non skid covering. Thanks, Joe Suszynski ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Starline / Fleetline Subject: Re: Ticonderoga Class Cruisers Drill out the holes, they are there for the mooring lines to pass through to the bollards and capstan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Keith Bender" Subject: Re: Ticonderoga Class Cruisers Hi SMMLies, Bunker Hill CG, Those holes you mean must be the hawser ports. yes open them up. Be sure to petty up the seam wherethe deck meets the hull, there should be a seam that stands out like a sore thumb both port and stb. sides. you can find more inf. on this kit in the latest "Model Ship Journal". There is an article on the Valley Forge CG 50, KTB ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: andrew jones Subject: 3 part question 1) After giving Lorna's internet modeller article a quick read on the HMS Furious, is there a WW2 option or upgrade & is it easy or hard to convert? 2) Tamiya 1/700 I-58 late version.. Part A2 what is that..a snorkel???? 3) IMAI sailing ship series. Greek Warship... picked this kit up for $5 aussie..wondering what figures could be used for this, like wargamer style figures etc to put on the deck? or should i create some wire figures & then carefully mould some modeller's putty to form rough figures? regards Andrew Jones OZ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "rtorgeson" Subject: New Books from Floating Drydock Craig, I have all three, received them from the Tin Can Sailors Association just about a year ago. The Alabama book is a updated and expanded book first issued by Leeward Publication 20 years ago or more, the Joseph P. Kennedy also is a reissue of a book I first acquired again close to 20 years ago from a friend who visited the museum ship. It has, like the Alabama book been expanded and updated. The Laffey book I believe is new (not 20 or more years old). All three are worth the money. If you look up Tin Can Sailors Association in their book section you will find a great little title on US destroyer losses and damaged in WW-II Roger ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: andrew jones Subject: magazine review: International Naval News - warship RAN/RNZN news: -Hydrographic ships of the RAN are now painted in warship grey due to their border patrols in NW Australia.. Also heading to the paint shop will be the fleet's 4 x 310 tonne survey motor launches: Paluma, Mermaid, Sheppardton & Benalla -The RAN has taken delivery of the last of 6 upgraded Balikpan class landing craft - NZ's Te Kaha sailed from AUckland with the Cantebury & Endeavour for a 5 month deloyment to Asia, taking part in Japan's fleet review & returned in time for Xmas - The HMAS Tobruk has been running trials with army pilots on Chinook helo landing trials off QLD. The last time a Chinook landed on her deck was in 1996. Tobruk returned to Sydney in Nov for docking & maintenance - NZ short lists 6 organisations for their Project Protector - the lives of 22 Pacific class patrol boats donated to her neighbours are being extended. The 1st of the class HMPNGS Tarangau is now 15 years old. The ships will be expected to keep going for another 15 years. Stories: The Far East Strategic Reserve. Talks about the RAN envolvement in the Malayan Emergency Honda Point Disaster. Talks about how 7 US navy destroyers that ran aground on rocks in Sept 1923 & the 23 lives lost (some good photos for dioramas!) HMAS Canberra 1928 The Last years of Larrakia , a 45 ft patrol boat Life aboard the Fairmilies The new Frigate HMAS Stuart ----more to come next time------- Andrew Oz ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: Ned Barnett Subject: Re: Diorama protection I have found that cases made from old hi-fi and stereo cabinets (generally fine walnut or other woods) work well, and have a single front viewing perspective. If you can't find these, crafts stores like Michaels has boxes with a removable front or top that can be finished and used easily. Shep Paine's book on dioramas gets into how to light and frame these. For others, where you have a flat scene you want viewed from top, front, sides and back, I choose plexiglas cases. Some come pre-fab, and others can be found at crafts stores (not too big, though). There are cases made to display sports memorabilia (game winning footballs, baseball bats, etc.) that have sufficient size for ship dioramas which I saw just yesterday at Michaels in Vegas. Of course, you might just choose to live in a hermetically-sealed white room with no cats ... Ned ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "Craig Andrews" Subject: Emco Unimat 4 Lathe Hello all, I am looking at purchasing an Emco Unimat 4 Lathe for hobby work and was wondering what are peoples thoughts/experiences of them. thks and rgds Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "Daniel" Subject: Nicknames One of my projects over the last few months has been to compile a list of all nicknames I hear/read applied to ships. The current result is viewable on the web at http://www.ameritech.net/users/dkurtz/nicknames2.htm. Have a look. I'm always interested in additions, corrections, clarifications or stories. Enjoy. ddk Hi Daniel, HMAS Vampire (Daring class - not sure about the V & Ws) was called The Bat Shane ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: Silk Purse/RN Destroyer Hi Raymond, >> To John at White Ensign: why no truncated mainmast for this kit on your WEM PE no.624? This is not included by Airfix in the kit as it was probably to delicate to cast with any reasonable accurate representation of the original. << I have no idea. Design of that set predates my arrival at WEM. >> Anyone know of an RN Destroyer in 1/350 in either plastic or resin? << Certainly, the WEM HMS JANUS. Have a look at: http://www.whiteensignmodels.com/brochure/1_350_hms_janus.htm Best, John Snyder The Token Yank White Ensign Models Home Page for WEM, http://WhiteEnsignModels.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: CokerRE@aol.com Subject: Re: Japanese and Soviet MTBs In response to Matthew Prager's inquiry about Soviet MTBs, I have the following items for sale: Mehl, Von Kustenschutzboot zum Rakentanschiff, guide to Soviet Block coastal forces 20.00 Soviet Destroyer 1950, photos & plans 1/350 20.00 Orkan, Polish DD 1942 book w plans 20 Gremyashchy DD 1942 book w plans 15.00 Drushnz 1972 frigate1/100 20.00 Riga 1952-59 1/100 20.00 Svetlyy 1969 DDH 1/200 15.00 Kujawiak 1930? torpedoboat 1/100 10.00 Piorun 1940 Polish DD1/150 20 T 121 Spica 1 “ 1/100 15.00 ASM corvette type Pauk 199?1/75 15. T-43 MSO 1/75 20.00 Rostock, Eaast German gunboat 10 Osa missile torpedoboat 1970 10.00 Nanuchka 1969 missile boat 1/100 20 MTB 1930 10.00 MTB-5 1/50 10.00 Komsomoletz MTB 1/25 20.00 Shmal 1960? river gunboat 1/50 20 Zheleznyakov 1934-45 river gunboat 1/50 20.00 River Gunboat 10.00 River gunboat no. 1204 198? 10.00 River Monitor 1124 & M-13 1941-45 1/35 20.00 Lenin 1924 river monitor1/100 20 Udarny “ 1941-45 1/100 20.00 Adler fast minelayer 1/35 1125 class “ “ “ 1/100 20.00 Kujawiak 1925 Polish mtb 1/50 20 D Class Sub 1941 1/100 20.00 D-3, MTB 1940-45 1/32 20.00 M Class sub 1941-52 1/50 20.00 Polish ASW on MTB hull 1946 1/32 20. If any items are of interest, please contact me off line at cokerre@aol.com. PC Coker/Charleston ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Bob Pearson" Subject: February Internet Modeler Hi all, The February Internet Modeler is now online and ship related items are builds of the Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet (Richard Eaton), Academy 1/160 Cutty Sark (Bill Pfieffer), and a scratchbuilt WWI monitor M33 (George Peat) as well as an inbox review of the LCP 1/700 HMS Furious (Lorna Jenkins)and photos of the actual M33 as she appears today. Regards, Bob Pearson Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume