Subject: SMML VOL 2150 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 03:17:58 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: German Protected Cruiser 1889 (??) 2: Susan B. Anthony 3: Re: CSS TENNESSEE 4: Re: SUSAN B. ANTHONY 5: Susan B. Anthony -- more 6: Model shops in Japan 7: Re: Striking the Colors 8: Assembly sequence and painting 9: Re: Tool review 10: Re: SUSAN B. ANTHONY 11: USS St Louis Model in the Washington Navy Yard Museum 12: World Champs 13: Re: SUSAN B. ANTHONY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information 1: Buffalo SMMLcon 2003-More Information 2: Quad Cities Scale Model Show -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Re: Moulded Fittings ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Kerry L. Jang" Subject: German Protected Cruiser 1889 (??) Caveat Emptor! The model in question certainly looks like the toylike Zhengdefu kit of the Ting Yuan or Chen Yuan of the 1894 War. The real ship is indeed of German orgin, specifically based on the Saschen class. However, when the Chinese purchased two units of the Saschen class in the 1880's the upperworks were radically changed. Outside of the hull lines, the Ting Yuan and Saschen are as different looking as night and day. Save your money on these kits. They are toylike and meant for the pond for kids. On my last trip to China some kids had them free running in a pond in a public park. The kids were having a blast. Alas, my next trip to China this March was just cancelled due to the mystery pneumonia. The street markets and dept. stores hold an amazing array of Chinese kits. Kits of the PLA-N is all the range now over there these days. The kits were originally released in China to commemorate the 1894 War with Japan and the founding of the "modern" Chinese powered navy. In some issues of the kit, you get a lapel pin commemorating the event. I have seen some of these kits built up and extensively refined to be more historically accurate, but its a heck of a lot easier to simply scratchbuild the ships! Regards, Dr. Kerry Jang ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Ken Goldman" Subject: Susan B. Anthony Brad Chaucer, Please contact me directly at kngoldman@cnmnetwork.com I have one small picture of Anthony when she was still SS Santa Clara that I can email you. I also suggest contacting the National Archives to see if they have any photos of AP 72. They can be contacted at inquire@nara.gov Since the actual prints are outsourced, 8 X 10s run $20 each. The people there have been most helpful to me in my researching USS Charles Carroll, APA 28 for a book I am writing about that ship. Ken Goldman ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: ALROSS2 Subject: Re: CSS TENNESSEE Most of Geoghegan's drawings are available through the Smithsonian Institution's collection of warship plans. A catalog is available. Al Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: ALROSS2 Subject: Re: SUSAN B. ANTHONY SUSAN B. ANTHONY (AP 72) was the former liner SANTA CLARA built by New York Shipbuilding, so a LIBERTY kit would not be of any use. Norman Friedman's latest book on amphibs has a photo of her. Al Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Ken Goldman" Subject: Susan B. Anthony -- more Brad, You might also try the Steamship Historical Society to see if they have any information or photos http://www.sshsa.net/ Ken Goldman ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Sab1156 Subject: Model shops in Japan Does anyone has e-mail or postal adresses of large model-shops in Japan,who are able to understand and write english? Thanks in advance Detlef ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Danjessar Subject: Re: Striking the Colors I can't recall any other USN ships that surrendered during the twentieth century, but there were at least a few others from earlier time periods: USS Essex to HMS Phoebe and HMS Cherub, the Battle of Valparaiso, Chile, in 1814 USS Chesapeake to HMS Shannon, also during the war of 1812 USS Philadelphia to Tripoli in 1803 during the Barbary pirate wars I seem to recall a couple of USN ships surrendering to CSN ships during the American Civil War, but I can't remember the details off the top of my head, and my references are packed away, awaiting a new bookcase. For those interested in the history of the early US Navy, I've just finished a book entitled "The USS Essex and the Birth of the American Navy" by Frances D. Robotti and James Vescovi that basically covers the US Navy from 1776-1815. It's an easy read, with enough details to fill a hole in my knowledge without getting overly technical. I highly recommend it. Dan Schweikert ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Stephen Varhegyi" Subject: Assembly sequence and painting Hi All I'd just like some ideas on how you go about your assembly and painting sequence when using photoetched railings. Do you assemble and paint your ship and then add preshaped and painted rails or do you attach your rails prior to painting? Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Regards Steve Varhegyi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Re: Tool review Sears makes an interesting tool. It is their contour sander. Looks like a Norelco triple header razor on hormones - 2 rotating sanding disks (actually more like donuts or washers) on floating backer plates. has variable speed. I found it was great for sanding down the pour sprue on the bottom of a ship hull. Had the hull ready for filling (air bubbles and other defects) in a few minutes. Basically I sawed off the plugs with a razor saw , leaving the stub of the plug. Then used the sander to smooth out the contour of the hull. Really easy!!! BTW as an added tip. those jewelers saws, the type with the very thin blade work really well on resin. I have been using one for a while now and find that I get better, tighter and more accurate cuts than I did with an Exacto type razor saw. Regards, Bradford Chaucer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Craig Bennett" Subject: Re: SUSAN B. ANTHONY Hi Bradford The USS Susan B.Anthony AP-72 is the former passenger liner Santa Clara built in 1929 and converted to a transport by the New York Shipbuilding Corporation in Camden NJ in the summer of 1942. She was commissioned on Sept 7, 1942 went to North Africa and Sicily and after a refit was found to be without a reserve of stability so all the landing craft and davitts were removed and she was used as a point to point transport and sank on 6/7/1944 due to a mine. There is a photo of her in Friedman's book on US Amphibious ships and and craft. Perhaps this is of help to you on this request. Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Bruce Buchner" Subject: USS St Louis Model in the Washington Navy Yard Museum I just received my ISW kit of the USS Milwaukee pre WWI cruiser. I am looking for pictures of a model of sister ship USS St Louis in the Washington Navy Yard Museum in Washington, DC that I was reminded about by Mike Leonard. The model is shown in a striking four color WWI dazzle camo. On a visit to the museum some time ago I only took one picture of this model. I didn't think I would ever see a kit. Does anyone have any digital pics of this model they would be willing to share that would show the camo on both sides of the ship? I would like to use this scheme if I can. Thanks, Bruce Buchner ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "raymond guy" Subject: World Champs Well done the Aussie Cricket Team. Congrats to our mates in Oz. Ray Capetown South Africa ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Craig Bennett" Subject: Re: SUSAN B. ANTHONY Hi Concerning the photos of USS Susan B. Anthony AP-72 there is a nice profile shot of her in the USNI book US Naval vessels 1943 page 15 in the auxiliary ships section dated 9/14/1942 copyright 1986. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "James Kloek" Subject: Buffalo SMMLcon 2003-More Information The Buffalo Guys have updated their website. Go to www.ipmsniagarafrontier.com They now have a full schedule of events for Noreastcon, a complete list of vendors, all the contest categories, plus printable forms to preregister for the contest and reserve a hotel room. The hotel is the Buffalo/Niagara Marriot, 1340 Millersport Hwy., Amherst, NY 14221. 1-800-334-4040. We are only six weeks away, so it is time to start making serious plans! It really looks like it is going to be a great event. Also check out the Naval & Military Park at www.buffalonavalpark.org This is where we SMMLies will be headed for a tour and Darren's beer. It doesn't get much better than that. Let Darren Scannell or me know if you are coming, we will need a headcount to make final arrangements. There has been a thread recently about visas for entering the U.S. I'm no expert, but it does not seem to apply to Canadian citizens. It apparently does apply to citizens of certain Commonwealth countries who are residing in Canada. Darren and I will try to keep up with what is going on and whether things change. This is going to be fun. Jim ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: GRBroman Subject: Quad Cities Scale Model Show There will be a show in Davenport Iowa at the Davenport Holiday Inn on Saturday, March 29th from 9 to 5. Admission is free and model entries are $1 with unlimited entries. We have 50 vendor tables and a large raffle with some really nice ship models and accessories for the raffle. I'm hoping we get another good ship turnout this year. Glen Broman ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: Moulded Fittings Hi George, We have resin fittings in 1/600 scale. Best, John Snyder The Token Yank White Ensign Models Home Page for WEM, http://WhiteEnsignModels.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume