Subject: SMML VOL 2226 Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 16:31:37 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: What happened to the Eaglewall 1:1200 moulds? 2: Franklyn's misattributed quote 3: Thinning WEM Paints 4: Washes 5: Re: Jack 6: Washington visit - thanks for help 7: New MTB Book 8: Re: Metric Conversions in Squadron/Signal books 9: Navy League 10: Oldest ship still in service 11: USN CV numbers 12: Re: Richelieu colors 13: The UK and GB in the USA, and vice versa 14: A frustrated modeler! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Attention: Microsoft XP Users ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: David Wells Subject: Re: What happened to the Eaglewall 1:1200 moulds? "Reid, John (AFIT)" wrote: >> Miniature SMMLies will know that a few Eaglewall /Eagle kits of the 60s were re-issued as Pyro (and the Pyro range also included some mould previously marketed as Life-Like). But does anyone know what happened to the rest of the Eagle moulds? Do they still exist? << I'd never heard of Eagle, but I'm assuming that you're talking about the kits that Pyro sold as their "Table Top Navy" series. From what I understand, when Pyro went under around 1972, Life Like got their assets. Life Like sold their molds to Lindberg around 1978. That said, I've never seen either a Life Like or Lindberg issue of any of the 1/1200 "Table Top Navy" series models. You can occasionally find the Pyro versions on e-Bay. Any information you can provide about Eagle or Eaglewall would be most welcome. I'd like to use it in the next issue of Rajen's List. You can e-mail me off-list at dave "dot" wells "at" att "dot" net. David R. Wells "There seems to be something wrong | David R. Wells with our bloody ships today" | Adm. D. Beatty, May 31, 1916 | http://home.att.net/~WellsBrothers/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: EDWARD GRUNE Subject: Franklyn's misattributed quote Franklyn attributed the quote that "England and America are two countries divided by a common language" to Sir Winston Churchill. It was actually George Bernard Shaw. He also said, "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable but more useful than a life spent doing nothing." It looks like we've both lead useful and honorable lives. Ed Mansfield, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Stephen Varhegyi" Subject: Thinning WEM Paints Sorry to post this again, but my last post didn't seem to elicit a response. What thinner are you supposed to use for WEM paints? I tried brushing some on something the other night and it seems a bit thinner than Humbrol and certainly smells different. Can you use Humbrol thinners or is there something better? Thanks Steve Varhegyi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: hwimmer Subject: Washes Greetings all: I respectfully disagree with the contention that washes work better on a flat painted surface. I used that method for many years with uneven and often unpredictable results before a modeling friend and professional painter showed me his method. His recommendations were to gloss the surface to be painted and to mix the wash as a gloss as well. This reduces surface tension and causes the paint to flow more easily. It is, in fact, the tooth of the flat paint that causes the paint to wick away from the line being washed and to spread in random directions. One ends up with a fuzzy appearing line rather than even line. The wash ends up in the tooth of the paint rather than on the surface. Any misapplication will be more difficult to clean up. Several modelers I know like to use acrylics on enamels and visa versa. I use acrylic on acrylic without any problems with the wash disolving the surface coats. I thin acrylic paint with distilled water. But to each his own, my method works for me, and I am sure that there are other methods that work just as well. John Collins, Franklin, TN, USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Leonard, Michael W" Subject: Re: Jack Franklyn wrote - >> I believe it was Winston Churchill who said that the United States and England are two countries separated by a common language. << Also ascribed to George Bernard Shaw and Oscar Wilde... >> I do not know about the proper use of the American union jack by American merchant, commercial, or privately owned vessels. << Not flown from civilian vessels. MWL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Francis Macnaughton" Subject: Washington visit - thanks for help To all those SMMies who offered advice about Washington, Many thanks for all the tips and I managed to get out to Nostalgic Plastic before it closed, also the Navy yard museum and the library. Grandad's Hobby store was also well stocked. On my last day I also managed to get to the National archives and made real progress on a subject I had been wanting to research further - the LCT Mk5 - there were enough drawings there to build one down to the last coathook! Throughout I was overwhelmed by the generosity and willingness of people to help me in finding whatever I was after. As it happened, I was attending business meetings quite close to the entrance to the navy yard entrance so getting there at a "safe" time wasn't a problem although the very wet weather didn't help! Access for the public seemed to be allowed up to 4pm Mon - Fri as long as you brought along photo id. Many thanks again for helping me in achieving a very productive session in Washington. Francis Macnaughton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Leonard, Michael W" Subject: New MTB Book I can't speak about the accuracy of this book but it sure looks sweet!: Osprey New Vanguard #74 "British Motor Torpedo Boat 1939-1945", by Angus Konstam & Tony Bryan 48 pages, dozens of B&W photos, color plates of MTBs 30, 49, 73, 213, 315, 380, 494 and 523. Plus a two-page cutaway drawing of MTB 223 and a dramatic illustration of MTB 74 during the raid on St. Nazaire, March 1942. Sections include Development (pre-war designs, Thornycroft, British Power Boat, Vosper, other designs, and Lend-Lease production), Construction and Operation (propulsion, armament, MTBs in action), MTB Specifications, Losses, Pennant Numbers, and bibliography. Retail price US$ 14.95. MWL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: ConnellyTG Subject: Re: Metric Conversions in Squadron/Signal books Mr. Reid, Please remember, the warships in action authors sometimes don't have control over conversions like that. I, and my co-author of SCHNELLBOOT IN ACTION took special care to make sure that the book is extremely accurate. T. Garth Connelly ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: John Kutina Subject: Navy League http://www.navyleague.org/sea_power/jun_03_23.php ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Andreas Bergauer" Subject: Oldest ship still in service Hello all! Can anyone tell me which the oldest ship is that still is in use not as a museum, but for transportation. The best which I can offer is the Liemba, which was built in 1914 as the Graf Goetzen and which still serves as a combined passenger and cargo ship on the lake Tanganjika. I saw a documentary on TV some time ago and found it very interesting that such an old ship was still in normal use. Any other ideas of older ships? Greetings, Andreas Bergauer P.S.: John Collins, please contact me under habrok (at) gmx (dot) de The only mail adress I still have from you doesn't seem to work any more ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Craig Bennett" Subject: USN CV numbers Hi Does any one know when american carriers had their bow flight deck numbers changed from solid white numbers to the outlined numbers with the deck color of today. Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: SANDYMOOR Subject: Re: Richelieu colors Hi Chris, Thanks for the very helpful info on Richelieu's colors. I'll check with WEM about the paints. Best regards, Sandy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Poutre, Joseph A" Subject: The UK and GB in the USA, and vice versa To many Americans, United Kingdom and Great Britain are interchangeable, known for a Queen who carries a pocketbook, a Prince with big ears and a hunk of a son, his sister who works for Weight Watchers and Princess Diana who probably could have brought the USA back under the Crown. England is basically greater London, with some quaint villages, ruined castles, and the suburb of Liverpool, wherefrom came the Beatles and Stones. The Welch are known for their Grape Juice. The Scotch are known for Sean Connery, whisk(e)y, and Magic Brand Tape. The Irish make and drink beer, dance around and shoot each other because they're all Christians. Of course, to the subjects of the Queen, Americans are all rich cowboys with no manners who drink chilled swill mislabeled beer. Naughtily yours, Joe Poutre ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "Pwesty" Subject: A frustrated modeler! Hi List I have been doing models for a lost 20 year and as of late I have been very frustrated and overly hastate to start any new projects. I mainly I fear that any thing that I start I am going to mess up on which has happen more than I would like to say. Has anybody else ever thought of just throwing it all in, if so how does one over come it or does one grow out of doing models (which really suck big time, sorry) Thanks ;-{ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: John Snyder Subject: Attention: Microsoft XP Users Hi All, If you're an XP user and you've had trouble accessing the White Ensign Models website (or other websites), apparently it's because XP does not contain Java, due to a lovers' tiff between Microsoft and the creators of Java. The following fix should help: to install Java for XP follow the following link: http://support.centra.com/downloads/msjavx86.exe For the history of why Java isn't install with XP any more, see: http://java-virtual-machine.net/microsoft-virtual-machine.html and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=813926 Best regards, John Snyder White Ensign Models, Ltd. http://whiteensignmodels ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume