Subject: SMML VOL 2231 Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 01:09:57 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: YOUR Portland Rustbucket could use some help 2: YAMATO - Dockyard 3: Re: Sub chasers 4: Re: Lady Lex 5: Re: WW 1 wooden hulled 110 Ft. Sub Chasers 6: Lex & Sara 7: Encyclopedia of American Submarines? 8: Re: Uss New Mexico #18 from Classic Warships 9: Re: Oldest ship still in service 10: Russian Warship Colours 11: Models at Russia's Central Naval Museum 12: Re: a frustrated modeller 13: Re: Subchasers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information 1: APMA invite to all Sydney SMMLies -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Strong Aussie Dollar = Price reductions at SANDLE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Don Macdonald" Subject: YOUR Portland Rustbucket could use some help ON that new DDG 51 By Panda can any one of you help me. I Know there was some talk a wile back but I was not able to keep an eye on some of it, OK this may be a repeat but IT may help me later. can any one tell me a few things about the kit. Like how long is it? and wide can could I set it up for a small RC? Is it a one or 2 pice hull? I am sure on any of this I would hate to buy it then fine out It was a mistake, SO can any one help your Portland Rustbucket? Thank you in advance Don Macdonald The Portland Rustbucket ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Coleman, Denis PO" Subject: YAMATO - Dockyard Hi Can anyone tell me what dockyard Yamato was constructed/fitted out in, I have the Nichimo kit and want to paint it the correct dockyard colour, does anyone know what time period Nichimo modelled the Yamato after. Much Thanks Denis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Fkbrown90 Subject: Re: Sub chasers To: Rick Heinbaugh. Thank you for your thoughtful reference to Millholland's book. It is in my personal library. You have indeed warmed the cockles of an old man's heart with your generous words about my having kindled an interest about the WW 1 wooden hulled 110 Ft Sub Chasers. It is observations such as yours which tend to justify my existence. I am grateful. The Nautical Research Guild's Nautical Research Journal Fall issue, due out in mid-August, will contain an article about these vessels. My natural restraint, shyness, and overwhelming modesty prevent me from mentioning the author's name. Franklyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: andrew jones Subject: Re: Lady Lex If you look at the box art..it shows the Lex without her 5" guns...they only show the old kits for some strange reason....hopefully someone either buy it or one of the traders here will get it in stock or there will be a review on some web site, that will tell if they just wacked in the old kit with a new box art or if its a new improved version...i hope its the improved version!. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Fkbrown90 Subject: Re: WW 1 wooden hulled 110 Ft. Sub Chasers Rick Heinbaugh has suggested there may be an interest in the WW 1 wooden hulled Sub Chasers. If any SMML subscribers would like to know more about these vessels, please contact me off-post at fkbrown90@aol.com and I will be glad to share the material I have acquired over the past three or four years of diligent digging. It will help if you describe the nature of your interest (relative served, modeling, history buff, just plain curious, etc.). I have provided histories of specific boats for descendants, at no charge, and in some cases have exchanged information with them. There is a similar group of 110 Ft. wooden boats produced for WW 2, same length but with far more sophisticated equipment. Captain Ted Treadwell maintains an excellent comprehensive website dedicated to the second generation chasers. He can be reached at diodor@aol.com and he stands ready to accommodate those interested in the WW 2 vessels. Franklyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Richa5011 Subject: Lex & Sara Russ wrote: >> only to be sunk by us at Bimmi Atoll. << Bimmini is in the Caribbean while Bikini is the resting place of Saratoga, Independence, Arkansas and assorted others. Nat ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Morris D Shirley Subject: Encyclopedia of American Submarines? Hello, Can anyone comment on the book Encyclopedia of American Submarines, Wilber Cross author, published by Facts on File? I ran google searches. Found a short description of it, but no indepth reviews. At $65 I'd like to know how it rates as modeling reference before I risk ordering it sight unseens. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Billgior Subject: Re: Uss New Mexico #18 from Classic Warships Dear Members I never thought I would say this but Steve Wiper has done it again, but I never thought he would out do himself. But his new book on the Uss New Mexico is outstanding, this book is pact with a lot of photographs that I have never seen before. Steve has some beautiful drawings of the Uss New Mexico in this book also. The Uss New Mexico class Battleships are the class that has been ignored by most publishers but this is one fine book that covers the whole career of the Uss New Mexico herself, is a must book for those of us who like the New Mexico class Battleships and it is nice to see that Classic Warships has step up and has done a very nice job on this subject. Nice job Steve keep up the good work, also check out the color photograph of the Uss New Mexico on the front cover very nicely done. Best Regards Bill Giordano ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Randy Ward Subject: Re: Oldest ship still in service >> Can anyone tell me which the oldest ship is that still is in use not as a museum, but for transportation. << The M/S Mount Washington has quite a history. I don't recall the date, but I seems she dates from the late 19th century, when she was on Lake Champlain. 1930-ish, was cut into sections and shipped to Lake Winnipesaukee, NH (the largest lake in the US fully-enclosed within one state, 72 square miles), was reassembled. Around 1942, the Coast Guard took her steam engines for the war effort. After the war, she resumed passenger service with diesels. In the 1980s, she was lengthened 25 feet to 230 feet. She was still running, as of this past Sunday. I'm doing plans for her, and starting a model soon. Randy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "John Rule" Subject: Russian Warship Colours I am looking for information sources on the general colours used on Russian warships from the birth of the ironclads to the end of WWI. I am looking for pointers to good sources of information, particularly to the use of such colours as green and brown as overall or hull colours. Any help would be appreciated. Sincerely, John Rule P.S. Happy July 4th to our US membership and belated Happy Canada Day to other Canadians on the list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Richard Scott" Subject: Models at Russia's Central Naval Museum Had the pleasure last week of visiting the Russian Central Naval Museum in St Petersburg - thoroughly recommended for all SMMLies for both the history and the beautiful models on display. Also - the museum shop had excellent glass-encased display models of various Russian sub types (Kilo, Typhoon, Delta IV) for sale at R4,800 (about US$180). Does anyone know the individual or company responsible for these creations? Finally, Sovremenny destroyer and Krivak frigate on display nearby at the IMDS show were adorned in very dark grey overall scheme - anyone have a colour match?? Richard Scott ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Ted0330 Subject: Re: a frustrated modeller I admire the beautiful models I see on the Internet and in hows, but you can not allow that level of work to prevent you form trying your best. We all screw things up as we work on a kit. When I open a kit for the first time, I can imaghine its perfect completion. I also know I will not acgieve that perfection. In some ways, the first 'screw up' is the event that lets me relax and enjoy the plain act of assembly, of bringing order and beauty out of a jumble of parts. There isn't a ship I've ever made that didn't have a mistake in it, usually several, and they're all in my office downtown where they are universally admired. Ted ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Craig Bennett" Subject: Re: Subchasers Hi Guys Concerning books about the US SC-1 class subchasers. I know of 3. They are the: 1.) THE CINDERELLAS OF THE FLEET by William Nutting LT,USNRF copyright 1920, Standard Motor Construction Co. 2.)The Splinter Fleet by Ray Millholland, The Bobbs-Merrill Co. copyright 1936. 3.)The Maverick Navy by Alexander Moffat,Captain USN Retired Wesleyan University Press copyright 1976. The first book gives detailed information about their development, construction, operation,and weapons. But lacks operational area reports. Most of these give a lot of coverage toward the Mediteerean area where the USN fought it's only surface battle of that conflict. Does any one else know of any others.? Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: andrew jones Subject: APMA invite to all Sydney SMMLies Hiya out there. if there is any Sydney siders wanting to look at ship models, july 12 is the APMA display day or warships as well as those land crawling small scale thingy-ma-jigs (fake battleships) ..so come along..bring a model or 2..who knows you might like us soooo much that you might visit again.... also Shane & Lorna or Lorna & Shane will be there to help you lighten your wallets or for a good chin wag.... See ya There! Andrew Jones 5th Committee APMA http://apma.org.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: SANDLE Hobbies Subject: Strong Aussie Dollar = Price reductions at SANDLE Hi all, That's right - due to the increasing strength of the Aussie dollar against the Greenback and the Pound, we have reduced prices on most products coming from the USA & the UK. The following lines have all had their prices reduced: WEM, GMM, Tom's Modelworks, ISW/Commanders, Corsair Armada, Flagship Models, Nautilas Models, Liveries Unlimited, Airline Hobby Supplies, WR Press, Classic Warship Books, PSM, Loose Cannon, IHP. Also we are now stocking the complete range of WSW products (ships, aircraft and armor). 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