Subject: SMML VOL 2234 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:07:57 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Hosho deck color, "new" mini art Hornet 2: Yellowed decals 3: R N Deck colours 4: TV Show on Ch7 Sunday 5: Re: Eagle Boat PE56 6: Re: TEXACO OKLAHOMA 7: Re: Russian Pauk Class Plans 8: Destroyer decks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: ZNWOOD Subject: Hosho deck color, "new" mini art Hornet does anyone know of the color and or material used in the hoshos flightdeck I remember there was some discussion in psm several years ago but I'm not sure what conclusion was reached. Also I saw the "new" mini art 1/700 Hornet today -looks like a less cleanly molded recast of the Tamiya kit with a full hull that dosen't even look correct any help on thehosho would be helpful, thanks zack wood PS: a couple months ago I was contacted by some gentlemen who would be interested in trading/buying some 1/35 kits ,If you're still interested contact me at znwood@aol.com,thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Keith Butterley Subject: Yellowed decals Hi, Is there any way of re-habilitating decals that have yellowed? Thanks. Keith Butterley http://www.warshipbooks.com Vancouver site of the 2010 winter Olympics ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "lamkeel" Subject: R N Deck colours Hi Jeffon 10 and other smellies I have in front of me a set of drawings for the Tribal Class destroyer HMS Matabele, a set of the builders"As Fitted" drawings dated Febury March 1939. The fox'l from the towing fairlead to the breakwater is a bare steel deck metallized with footstrips. The fox'l deck from aft of the breakwater is shown as non-skid rubber composition on the exposed deck and linoleum on the deck in accommodation. The signal deck and No 2 (B) gun platform is shown to have non-skid rubber composition on the exposed deck and linoleum in all compartments. The upper deck has heat resisting non-skid latex composition on the walkways and bare steel deck with footstrips elsewhere. The upper bridge has a non-skid rubber composition on the deck (The for'd half has a naval brass deck). The for'd gun platform (Two Quad 0.5" "M" Mark III Mountings) has a non-skid rubber composition on the deck. Both the after control and searchlight platform, and the after superstructure deck (Quad pom pom and Twin 4.7" Mark XIX Mounting) has a non-skid rubber composition on the deck. These are a particularly nice clear set of builders drawings, "for future use". If you would like information (where available) on other warbuilt RN "DD"classes, post an interest and I will see what I can dig out from my store of drawings. Right now I am working on detailed drawings for Allied Coastal Forces Volume 3 in the shape of the Camper & Nicholson, ML and MGB/MTB designs. I can at last see the light at the end of the tunnel. About 60 sheets of drawings completed to date and a few more to do, and check. (Oh for more hours in the day)! Remember that you saw it here first! Yours "Aye" John Lambert ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: andrew jones Subject: TV Show on Ch7 Sunday For those that get Ch:7 in Sydney & I guess other states (check local guides etc) "In the Face of Danger", looks at the work of the RAN .. so Ch7 2pm Sunday 13 July regards Andrew ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Ken Goldman" Subject: Re: Eagle Boat PE56 It was an interesting show on the History Channel. Unfortunately, the show created a red herring by indicating that the Navy might have been trying to protect its Ultra secret as an excuse for their reaching a conclusion totally unsupported by the evidence at the time. Since the survivors saw the U-853, there was no secret to protect. By the way, PE 56 was torpedoed and sunk two weeks before V-E Day, not V-J Day. Ken Goldman ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Jerry Slagle" Subject: Re: TEXACO OKLAHOMA >> Jerry, should I assume that you have the report on the sinking? If not, it's about 3MB, and is at: http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/moa/boards/texoklahoma.pdf My interest is more with the Texaco North Dakota and her sister, Texaco New York. They were both built at Newport News, early 1950s. Was the Oklahoma a T-2? If so, the old Mission Capistrano kit would probably be a good starting place for a conversion. I understand it represents a typical T-2, even more so than it does the Mission tankers. And the Smithsonian has plans for the T-2, probably more detailed than you'd want. << Randy, I'm aware of the report. I'm not really sure of the type or class, although I know there were approximately 11 or 12 in the class. I can make an educated guess by displacement, dimensions, shipyard built at, etc. as to which vessels were in the class. I have not found anything specific saying the class consisted of which vessels. It does look similar to the T-2, but there seems to be too much of a difference to be able to use that particular kit. Thanks for the reply, Jerry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "dengar" Subject: Re: Russian Pauk Class Plans Thanks to everyone that offered the solution to my problem for opening RAR files. I have now downloaded the program and it works fine. Thanks again Gary ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Chris and Kayo Amano-Langtree" Subject: Destroyer decks Hi Jeff With regard to pre-war destroyer decks Alan Raven's research is probably the most definitive. Deck coverings are quite a difficult subject but for the JKNs the material was Wundergrip which however had problems and was eventually replaced by Semtex. Here there is some confusion about colours - the names Corticene, Wundergrip and Semtex were propriety names and the material (linoleum) came in several colours. For the JKN class this was grey (apart for Jersey which had a petrol and black lead mixture). Red lead was only used during the war as a special aerial identification feature for destroyers operating in the Mediterranean. It was slow drying and not very well liked. Decks were painted overall dark grey or blue grey for camouflage purposes. The need was for the colour to be darker in shade than the sea. Otherwise these would have stood out too much. Thus Semetex and Corticene were painted over if they remained in place. Christopher Amano-Langtree ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume