Subject: SMML VOL 2262 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 04:12:04 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: French Colours 2: Re: One for WEM's paint guys 3: Re: Jean Bart references please? 4: Re: Wiper Showdown 5: Re: Flag question 6: Re: Modern US Navy Ship Kits 7: HAMPTON ROADS Military 8: Re: a challenge, and UAVs 9: Re: 88s and E-Boats 10: Re: Japanese plans website 11: Re: Modern US Navy Ship Kits 12: Roger Chesneaus' book on German Pocket Battleships? 13: Re: 25 mm Japanese AA guns 14: Navy League ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: HGYL Subject: Re: French Colours According to "Flags of the World" by Barraclough and Crampton the proportions of 30:33:37 for the stripes were adopted on 17th May 1853 for the FLAG FOR USE AT SEA (my emphasis) to make them appear more nearly equal in conditions of difficult visibility. I have emphasised the flag for use at sea since the implication is that on land the flag continues to have equal stripes. Anyone know? Regards to all, Harold Lincoln ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: One for WEM's paint guys Hi Phil, >> Having become completely confused as to what paint Ark Royal was in at the time of her sinking, there seems a solution if WEM produce a couple of specials; 1: "Spotted" paint to represent a ship being chipped and wire-brushed with red (or gray ?) lead touch-up. I presume this should be based on a weathered/faded gray (?) with small various sizes of "steel", dull red and light gray, etc.. << Paint base coat. Take one tin of Colourcoats enamel, add water. Emulsify. Airbrush at low pressure. Let dry. Wipe away spots of water, and, voila! >> 2: "Streaked" paint to represent a single poorly applied colour over an old weather one. << As above. Apply with cruddy brush--you know: the one you've been letting stand on its bristles for a month in the thinner jar. >> All we need then in a special modeller's "airless" air brush (as they use in real life for "spotted" paints) and there we are. << Sorry, we don't do hardware.... >> P.S. I'm still waiting for the tins of bunker fuel to colour some (?) RN WW2 wooden decks << We're working on the hazardous materials clearance. >> Oh!, I forgot !!!, we also need a special paint for the tops of Bismarck's turrets at the time of her sinking, it looks gray, but if you look at it from a certain direction it suddenly turns yellow (again probably streaky) << DON'T GO THERE!! >> AND, we could do a variation for Indian's "green". The possibilities are endless << Already done: the USN greens are available in Colourcoats. Cheers, John Snyder The Not-So-Serious Paint Guy WEM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Kevin W. Woodruff" Subject: Re: Jean Bart references please? The book Battleships: Allied Battleships in World War II, by William H. Garzke and Robert O. Dulin have several good pictures of the Jean Bart Annapolis, Mary land: Naval Institute Press, 1980. Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Robert Healy" Subject: Re: Wiper Showdown Um, I feel insulted too. Real hurt. I feel the need to challenge both the gentelman involved also to regain my sense of....whatever. Weapon of choice: Victoria Bitter(V/B)...very cold. Failing that, Fosters Oil Cans will do. Sincerly, Bob Healy :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Michael London" Subject: Re: Flag question My thanks to Robert, Stuart and Duane for their Response to my query regarding the width of the stripes on the French Tricolor. This is a great site for getting questions answered promptly! Michael London ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: David Wells Subject: Re: Modern US Navy Ship Kits Michael McMurtrey >> Further to my post about my recent trip to Norflok, VA, I now have an interest in building models of the ships I saw. But as a novice ship builder, I'm kinda vague on what kits are available. So can someone suggest what are the best kits (plastic or resin, in both 1/350 and 1/700) of such modern USN ships as: Nimitz-class Carrier (CVN) Enterprise (CVN-65) Ticonderoga-class cruiser (CG) Arleigh Burke-class destroyer (DDG) Spruance-class destroyer (DD) LaSalle-class command ship (AGF) Saipan-class amphipious assault ship (LHA) Wasp-class amphibious assault ship (LHD) Trenton-class amphibious transport (LPD) Whidbey Island-class landing ship dock (LSD) Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate (FFG) Los Angeles-class attack submarine (SSN) Regulus-type Fast Sealift Ship (T-AKR) Cape May-type Roll-on/Roll-off Ship (T-AKR) Henry J. Kaiser-class Oiler (T-AO) << You can always have a look around Rajen's List for information on available ship kits. http://www.quuxuum.org/rajens_list/shiprevs.html Rajen's List is a huge list of mini-reviews of ship kits. Using the "search" function on your browser, this List can provide all sorts of answers. Some easy answers: Try the Italeri 1/720 Nimitz (flawed though it may be) the Revell 1/720 Enterprise (old though it may be) the Skywave 1/700 Arleigh Burke the Skywave 1/700 Perry I'm sure there will be plenty of other suggestions....... David R. Wells ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: John Kutina Subject: HAMPTON ROADS Military http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/print.cfm?story=57915&ran=248102 http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/print.cfm?story=57973&ran=172939 Regards, John Kutina ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: SteveWiper Subject: Re: a challenge, and UAVs >> But offense was taken. I challenge thee, Sir Wiper! I throw down my gantlet, and charge you with insult and injury to my Honour, Goode Name, Inteliginc, and Sense of Humor. If we shall meet in person, thou shalt duel me at the nearest watering establishment until one of us is looking up at the bar. My weapon of choice is Guiness; on draft preferably. Everybody else: no green Indianas! Green bananas, yes, but no battleships. << I know this is going to sound like I am a real P***Y and cannot stand up to the Honorable Joe, but I, a renowned beer drinker, have been stricken with a terrible affliction. I have developed an allergic reaction to sulfites. These are often used as a preservative in beer. I have not had the pleasure for three months now, and let me tell you, it sucks! At least two bars in my area have closed their doors for lack of business. On a side note, I have learned that Preservatives are known as a rubber (condom) in Denmark, so imagine my dismay upon learning this! Steve Wiper ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: SteveWiper Subject: Re: 88s and E-Boats >> Did the Kriegsmarine ever mount an 88 on an E-Boat? Or rocket launchers such as the Nebelwerfer or the Russian Katyusha-type? I have both the Airfix and Revell E-Boats just waiting to be built and maybe modified!! << Gene, That would be like mounting a JATO to the roof of your Chevy Nova. Steve Wiper ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: SteveWiper Subject: Re: Japanese plans website >> I found this site http://www2.odn.ne.jp/miyukikai/newpage1.htm Which seems to be the website for Haruo Takami and offers various plans (mostly Japanese, but some British and US. Does anyone have experience of these, are they any good? << These are also known as the "MYCO" plans and are sold thru Pacific Front Hobbies @ www.pacificfront.com They are fairly good, and in some cases the only thing available. Steve Wiper ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Craig Bennett" Subject: Re: Modern US Navy Ship Kits Hi I know of the following ships in 1/350 scale of modern USN. There's the Tamiya Enterprise CVN-65, Dragon Ticonderoga CG-47, Bunker Hill CG-49 Spruance DD-963 and two sister ships Hewitt and Ingersoll. Panda has released the Arleigh Burke DDG-51. Supposely also of the Cole DDG-67. Dragon has released a Los Angles class sub. There is no 1/350 kit of Saipan - Tarawa class. The others I don't recall of any kits of the auxilliaries you mentioned. A Nimitz class carrier is in planning by Trumpeter for this year or next. That's all I have. Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "michael thrupp" Subject: Roger Chesneaus' book on German Pocket Battleships? Does anyone know when or if Roger Chesneaus' book on German Pocket Battleships will be published? I'm looking forward to getting it after the recent disappointing Osprey book. TIA Mike Thrupp ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Mike Toole" Subject: Re: 25 mm Japanese AA guns Hello-about small guns on ships, such as the Japanese 25mm's. I believe, that most small guns were able to be removed from their mountings. They would be cleaned, serviced, etc. There are lots of photos of 20mm US Navy gun mounts with out the gun itself mounted. The gun would be in its' natural finish of gun metal, not painted, due to the high heat generated when firing. To preserve a gun that is never fired, but on display, then it probably would be painted, and not coated in a grease or preservative. There must be some old salt out there from any, and every navy, that could verify this. Thanks for the newsletter! Keep it up, Simper Fi! Mike Toole ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: John Kutina Subject: Navy League http://www.navyleague.org/sea_power/aug_03_14.php Regards, John Kutina ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume