Subject: SMML VOL 2380 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 03:25:15 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Three Kirov Kits 2: Army vs. Navy 3: U.S. Marine Corps officers 4: Re: paint 5: Re: Master and Commander 6: Italian hydrofoil 7: WARSHIP (the publication) 8: Thank you yet again! 9: Modelfest at Runnemeade 10: New York Times article about Benton Pearl Harbor Artwork ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: 520086475121-0001@t-online.de (F. Pletscher) Subject: Three Kirov Kits As far as I know, the Skywave kit of Kirov is identical with the Trumpeter kit, except that it has no underwater hull. Falk Pletscher ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Keith Bender" Subject: Army vs. Navy Hi SMMLies, Just a note for all those who did not see Navy give Army another beating this year 34 - 6. Well Done Navy, BRAVO ZULU. KTB ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject: U.S. Marine Corps officers Well, I guess it is time to start another thread. Here goes. Why does the U.S. Marine Corps draw its Academy educated career-oriented officers primarily from the Naval Academy and not from the Military Academy? It seems to me that generally what the Marines (on the ground, at least) do professionally is more like what the Army does than what the Navy does. Here is a good opportunity for SMML to (patiently, please) objectively enlighten we uninformed but interested unfortunates. No "other services" bashing, please. Franklyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "David N. Lombard" Subject: Re: paint From: ED_LARYEH >> There is an important difference between them. Floquil is a water based paint and it does tend to erode faster on models which are subject to frequent handling. << Unless you're talking about some new use the brand name. Floquil is solvent based with very finely ground pigments. But they're glossy! I've heard various explanations for this, but it was just a goofy decision to me... For non-military, e.g., RC boats, I actually preferred the railroad colors as they are dead flat. My experience has also been all Floquil is somewhat fussy to brushing, and prefer to be airbrushed. David N. Lombard Rossmoor, Orange County, CA N 33 deg, 48', W 118 deg, 5' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: NAS4853@aol.com Subject: Re: Master and Commander SMMLer's The following site not only gives information regarding the links between Chesapeake and the mill building in Hampshire UK that bears the ships name but contains illustrations, etc. including internal views of the mill which shows the gun deck timbers in place on one of the mill floors. The website states that the mill has been preserved by the local authority --- continue on that site for further information. see http://www.cronab.demon.co.uk/cmill.htm see also http://www.news.navy.mil/search/displaybbs.asp?bbs_id=706 All the season best wishes Norman SELLS Tenterden Kent UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: patrick galleguillos Subject: Italian hydrofoil I found an Aurora Tucumcari hydrofoil and I'm interested in the Spaviaro(sp?) class hydrofoil of the Italian navy. Does anyone have line drawings or photos of these craft? Is there a good web site for these boats? Patrick ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Reid, John (AFIT)" Subject: WARSHIP (the publication) In addition to the issues listed in the Index (for which many thanks), there were two SPECIAL EDITIONS (not numbered) during the early years, perhaps concurrent with Volume III or IV. These were about the same size as the quarterly issue, but featured red and green spot colour on the cover rather than blue. One (Green, I think) was titled Super Destroyers with articles on French Contre-Torpilleurs, German Zerstörers Z-1 to Z-56 and Sp1-3, Japanese Fubuki class and successor large boats, UK Tribal class, and others. I cannot recall the title of the other (red) Special edition. From the failure to repeat this approach, I assume the Specials were not a publishing success. I was a foundation subscriber to Warship and had a complete collection, including these specials, until house destroyed in Canberra bush fire early this year. Sob. John Reid ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "lamkeel" Subject: Thank you yet again! Thank you for those that replied to the list of initials that I was asking about. As is usual with this site, a first class service! My Scottish friend is now fully genned up. (Is that the right word)? I must get back to the drawing board! Yours "Aye" John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Katz, Gene S" Subject: Modelfest at Runnemeade Anybody attend the end of the year Modelfest at Runnemeade (NJ, not UK) this Sunday? Ship models were few and far between, but I did acquire a 1/700 Hornet, Prince of Wales, and Bogue from 1 seller. All 3 for $20. Gene ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Robert Mosher" Subject: New York Times article about Benton Pearl Harbor Artwork I don't know if everyone will be access this link: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/08/arts/design/08BENT.html?th But it goes to an article in the Monday, December 8 New York Times on a series of paintings done by American Artist Thomas Hart Benton after the attack on Pearl Harbor. The article includes a link to a slide show that will allow you to view the set of paintings. A note of caution to the list's non-American members, some may find the art a bit disturbing and overly dramatic but remember these were painted at a time when Americans felt themselves to be at deadly peril and the victims of a surprise attack on US territory and threatened by an internal danger as well. We know now that the Japanese had intended to have notified the US that diplomatic talks had failed before the attack struck and recent television documentaries have included interviews with Japanese naval pilots who described how they had been told that the US would have received that diplomatic message - so one might say that they intended the attack to be a surprise but not necessarily a sneak attack - if you will forgive the hair splitting. It is clearly a complicated story. Robert A. Mosher ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume