Subject: SMML VOL 2389 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:54:54 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re Gearing Class Destroyers 2 Re the new Revell U boat kit in 1/72 3 Concrete Liberty Ships 4 Re Spanish monitor Puigcerda, 1874 5 Revell U-Boat 6 concrete ships 7 Re Spanish Cruiser Reina Mercedes 8 Re Kits of offshore rig vessels 9 Re Concrete Liberty Ships 10 Prince of Wales -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1 Revell 1/72 Type VIIC Etched Brass Detail Set.. and PT-109 details ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Ron Subject Re Gearing Class Destroyers >> My Father served on the U.S.S. Charles P. Cecil D?DR-835, Gearing Class Destroyer during the Korean War. I am interested in building a model resembling this ship? Also I am looking for the U.S.S. Juneau of WW II the Sullivan's served on? << Blue Water Navy made kits of both Gearing and Juneau, Yankeemodelworks now owns the molds. Both are excellent kits. USS Juneau is modelled as she was at the time of her sinking. USS Gearing is modelled as commissioned and you'd have to find some references to model her for a Korean War fit. In fact I'm building Gearing now. Either way I'd wait until around the first of the year to try ordering, John's got a tall order getting stuff made and stocked. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject Re the new Revell U boat kit in 1/72 About 20 years ago I was in Tokyo on a business trip and visited a hobby shop. I found an excellent WW II U Boat kit in roughly 1/160 scale. The Japanese manufacturer split the hull part horizontally so that it could be built either waterline or full hull. I wonder why more kits are not made this way. Does anyone know if it is still available? Regards, John Kutina ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "Ed" Subject Concrete Liberty Ships Dear Roger, Congrats on an excellent pitching career (sorry, couldn't resist). I went onto www.concreteships.org website and found this for you "Just as steel had become scarce during the First World War, the Second World War was again consuming the country's steel resources. In 1942, the United States Maritime Commission contracted McCloskey and Company of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to build a new fleet of 24 concrete ships. Three decades of improvements in concrete technology made this new fleet lighter and stronger than its WWI predecessors." It is a pretty good website with some great photos. I hope this helps. By the way, as most of the listmembers in the Philly/New Jersey area know, there is a concrete ship off Cape May, the S.S. Atlantus. Now just a pile of rubble, she has been a fixture off the Cape for decades. Ed Wandall ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From "Julio Pillet" Subject Re Spanish monitor Puigcerda, 1874 Sorry but I didn't have any plan or draw of the Puigcerdá. Send you two pics, a photo and a picture that I have of this vessel. Julio ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From "david harris" Subject Revell U-Boat Does anyone know what Colourcoats paints would be correct for a U Boat, specifically Revells' new kit? I Have just picked one up & can only agree with the other positive comments on the kit. It has to be seen to be believed. Admitting to knowing next to nothing about U-Boats & therefore missing detail, I do agree with Dan Taylor's comment about WEM reconsidering their decision not to produce a photo etch kit for the Boat. From my very basic point of view, it could do with hatch handles & perhaps a sight for the flak gun. Thanks in advance. Seasons greetings to you all. David. Surrey, England ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From "David L. Fisher" Subject concrete ships During WWII 24 C1-S-01 ships were built by McClosky & Co. of Tampa, Florida. They were constructed of concrete and were general cargo ships. They were 366 feet long and 5000 dwt. Anumber of barges were built of concrete by other companies. The most common fate was for the ships to be eventually sunk as breakwaters, several at Normandy. Plans are available from the Ship Plans section of the Smithsonian A google search on C1-S-D1 will yield additional information Dave Fisher ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From "Julio Pillet" Subject Re Spanish Cruiser Reina Mercedes Franklyn Send you a photo of the last lower of the USA Flag in the Reina Mercedes in 11-06-1957 before her scrap. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From Randy Ward Subject Re Kits of offshore rig vessels >> I'm interested in kits depicting offshore supply or anchor handling ships, but was unable to locate any. No RC, just static models, preferably plastic kits in "desktop" scale, 1200 - 1400. Does anyone know whether anyone is making these? Thanks for any assistance. << Hi, Jim. My interest is mainly in non-military vessels, including tankers, liners, oceanographic, etc. I've never seen any supply boats as static kits. You're best bet may be to get an RC version, build it, then use it as a guide for scratchbuilding a smaller version in styrene or wood. The closest I've seen is the Smit Rotterdam, which has been involved in towing the offshore rigs. But she's a tug. A lot of photos are available for scratchbuilding. I subscribe to both the Waterways Journal and Professional Mariner, which have pix and more pix. Cap'n Randy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From MicroGee@aol.com Subject Re Concrete Liberty Ships >> My father served in the Pacific in a Landing Craft Battalion (Engineer Boat & Shore). Between landings along the northern shore of New Guinea, they unloaded cargo vessels. Some of the freighters were concrete Liberty ships. << I served with the Army Map Service in the southwest Pacific in the mid 1960's as a topographic surveyor, and recall seeing a concrete freighter stuck on a sandbar off Eniwetok Atoll, complete with concrete superstructure sections. Somewhere in my old slide collection, I even have a few photos of it. The story has it that they were built for a one-way voyage, but there was no mention on which yard or yards they were launched from. Karl Kalb ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From "Chris and Kayo Amano-Langtree" Subject Prince of Wales Hi Johnny Prince of Wales was in overall AP507B with AP507A steel decks. Christopher Amano-Langtree ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "WEM" Subject Revell 1/72 Type VIIC Etched Brass Detail Set.. and PT-109 details Hi Guys, Re our proposed PE 7203 1/72 Type VIIC photoetched brass detail set, this HAS been a "shall we/shan't we" situation. The kit is so darned good, that, on superficial inspection, Peter Hall threw his hands up in despair, claiming that there really is no way to improve it. At this time, he is working away furiously on the 1/700 HMS Renown, 1942, which is scheduled for completion next month. This means that all WEM's PE projects have been temporarily shelved. In the interim, if those of you who have got your kits want to assemble a list of what YOU would like to see in etched brass (and do consider the limitations of the media!), then please send all suggestions to me at wem@onetel.net.uk By the way, the 1/72 PT-109 WILL now be going ahead..thanks to everyone who voted with their credit card details.. you've made it happen! If you haven't yet placed a pre-order, you can go down to the website and place your order with us. Cards will NOT be charged before despatch! http//www.whiteensignmodels.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_1_72_Scale_Photo_Etch_22.html Also, note that Dave Carter has posted a maximum of 25.49 Pounds for the set. Realistically, it'll probably be around 10 to 15 pounds. We'll let folks know in advance what the price is going to be once the artwork is completed, giving folks the opportunity to cancel, or even buy more than one set (some of you have already ordered multiples already!) We can probably expect this set to happen around the end of February (some of you have waited 20 years for an upgrade set, so a couple more months aint gonna harm yer!!). Cheers! Caroline Snyder, Director White Ensign Models Ltd http//WhiteEnsignModels.com for secure online ordering. For the latest news from WEM, Click Here http//www.whiteensignmodels.com/brochure/whats_new1.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at http//smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at http//apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume