Subject: SMML VOL 2409 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 05:43:35 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re LCI(S) 2 Re LCI(S) 3 ISW Campbell 4 LCI naming 5 submarine identification 6 Arizona & Bismark paints, again 7 off-subject quiz about A/C carriers 8 Hickman-Mustin "sea-sled" 9 Jim Baumann - can you contact me? 10 Looking for German chart 11 Re Future Floor Wax in Oz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1 Task Force Hobbies Yankee Modelworks and Commanders Ironshipwright ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Bill Weckel Subject Re LCI(S) >> After reading through a recent acquisition, Mighty Midgets, about the LCI(S)s in the Pacific, I got a hankering to do one. The only currently available kit is the Commanders/Iron Shipwright kit in 1350th. However, this link, http//www.commanderseries.com/pages/LCI230.htm, shows a picture that I am willing to swear appeared on a Lindberg kit of an LCI, the vessell the LCI(S) was based on. Anyone remember the kit? Am I dreaming? I can't find it on Rajen's List, so am doubting my memory. << I just saw this kit for sale on eBay last night - the listing didn't give the scale but it was a Lindberg and mentioned that the kit was the 1975 release. Hope this helps... Bill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From Brooks Rowlett Subject Re LCI(S) >> Lindberg kit 2221. It's going into Rajen's List version 6.3. I'm not bidding on the above kit, but if some SMMLlie buys it, I want a review! (that's the "finder's fee") << Hmm I remember building it too. It was the early version, with the two ladders to be lowered on either side of bow. In terms of general quality is was the basic Lindberg crude pattern, represented by the LST and LCVP of shape and a few details sketched in As I recall, the main parts Hull sides (2) Some raised seam lines Shafts (2) Props (2) Rudders (1?) Deck 6 guns - 20mm presumably - I don't remember shields a simple 'cross' mast Perhaps two sides of conning tower roof of CT a crossbar across bow that was the derrick for the ramps There MAY have been separate ramps, but they were not ladders, they were plastic bar stock with faint raised lines across them to represent the rungs on looking at the eBay picture, yes there was a boat and maybe davits and a few scattered loose bitts/blocks/ventilators for deck detailing. Probably about 30 parts in all. Brooks A Rowlett ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From Sanartjam@aol.com Subject ISW Campbell Hello Listmembers, Has anyone bought or built the ISW 1/350 Coast Guard cutter Campbell? What is the rig? Any comments or advice? Thanks, Art Nicholson ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From "Daniel Taylor" Subject LCI naming Hi I hate to seem pedantic but the landing craft in the Lindberg kit is an LCI(L). The (S) (Small) version is a British vessel designed by those kind people at Fairmile. It could carry around 100 troops and was only used in the ETO. The (L) (Large) version was much bigger, holding around 200 troops built in the US (to a British specification) and was used in both ETO and PTO. Hope that's helpful. BTW Floating Drydock do a good set of plans if you want to detail it. Dan Taylor West Malling, UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From Friedrich Kappes Subject submarine identification Hi folks! Can you tell me differences between these French submarines? Can you identify this submarine http//picpage7.tripod.com/identify/600tonnes.jpg ? It is either a 600 tonnes class or 630 tonnes class (French submarine 1930s) 600 tonnes class type A Sirene, Naiade, Galathee type B Ariane, Eurydice, Danae type C Calypso, Circe, Thetis, Doris (I have a photo,looks different) 630 tonnes class type D Argonaute, Arethuse, Atalante, Vestale, Sultane (rather not, too) type E Orion, Ondine type F Diane, Meduse, Amphitrite, Orphee, Psyche, Sibylle Which group of the US submarine S-class of 1918-1921 is this? Electric Boat type, S-1 (SS-105) - S-41 (SS-146) Navy Yard type, S-3 (SS-107) - S-17 (SS-122) 1st Lake type, S-2 (SS-106) 2nd Lake type, S-48 (SS-153) - S-51 (SS-162) (rather not, compared to drawing in Conway´s) S-42 (SS-147) - S-47 (SS-152) http//picpage7.tripod.com/identify/ss105class.jpg Thank you in advance!!! Friedrich The FriedrichFiles http//www.geocities.com/friedkappes/flagship.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From Steve Singlar Subject Arizona & Bismark paints, again Greetings, Due to a hard drive crash I have lost my notes regarding the proper painting for the December 7 Arizona and the May 1941 Bismark. Can anyone out there give me the correct collors and if possible recommed the right brands of paints to use for these two ships? Any good related web pages? Thanks for the help. Steve Pelham, NH ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From "Harold Stockton" Subject off-subject quiz about A/C carriers I just wanted to see if anyone out there knew why the islands on carriers ended up on the right side of the flightdeck instead of the left. There is no prize for being the first to guess it correctly, except that you know your aviation and naval architecture a little better than most. Harold Stockton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From "Harold Stockton" Subject Hickman-Mustin "sea-sled" Does anyone have any plans for the Hickman-Mustin "sea-sled"? The sea sleds' performance exceeded that of any other boat of its era and, arguably any boat of this era. They were far faster and more seaworthy than any other boat and had spectacular load-carrying ability. They were built in every possible form -- as small skiffs, yachts, race boats and military vessels up to 70 feet. In 1918 Hickman built a 50-foot, high speed torpedo boat in an attempt to convince the Allied navies that a small, fast boat with a huge load-carrying potential could wreck havoc among large slow enemy ships in WWI. He proved that the boat, with a staggering 56,000 pounds all-up weight, could easily exceed 40 knots. In one test it maintained 34-1/2 knots in a storm with 12-to-14-foot-waves. Also in 1918, Hickman built the first aircraft carrier in the form of a 55-foot sea sled. The sled carried a Carponi bomber with a 10,000-pound bomb load at 47.75 knots. To launch the bomber, the pilot and the sea sled captain both ran their engines to full throttle. The sea sled would reach 61 mph and the bomber would take flight. Landing on the sea sled was obviously out of the question. Let me know. Harold Stockton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From "Robert Lockie" Subject Jim Baumann - can you contact me? I failed to find a recent email address for you in the archives and I am told by Caroline that you are the man to answer my queries about a couple of non-ship matters in your part of the UK. Intriguing, eh? Thanks Robert Lockie Swindon UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From "Bill Michaels" Subject Looking for German chart I'm looking for a piece of a nautical chart, preferably in German, for use as a base for my 1/700 Bismarck. Ideally, I'd like a section of chart showing European waters, with the printing in German. I just need a section big enough to fit on the typical plank display base used for a 1/700 battleship. Ayone have any ideas where I'd find such an item? TIA! Bill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From Bill Weckel Subject Re Future Floor Wax in Oz This topic has been covered ad nauseum on Hyperscale (an Australian aircraft modeling site) and IIRC the final verdict was that there is no true substitute for the American Future acrylic floor wax and, although there is a Johnson's product sold in Australia, it's not the same formula and does not give the same magical results. If any of the Australians here are willing to smuggle me a few Galahs, I will send them more Future than could be used in several lifetimes. ;-) Bill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Billgior@aol.com Subject Task Force Hobbies Yankee Modelworks and Commanders Ironshipwright Hi Everyone As you already know I now carry Yankee Modelworks ships, check out there product list on my site. Also I have been carrying Commanders Ironshipwright, from Yankee modelworks I am now taking pre-orders for the 1/350 USS Holland and from Commanders Ironshipwright I am taking pre-orders for the 1/350 USS Oklahoma and USS Michigan. You can either e-mail me online our call by phone, you can get my phone number off my website under contact. I will match any price so please get back to me. Sincerely Bill Giordano ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at http//smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at http//apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume