Subject: SMML VOL 2447 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 02:56:42 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Naval bookstores in London 2 Re scratch building question 3 Re Mayflower 4 Scale parts 1/192 LST 5 USS New Jersey looks for more visitors 6 Graf Spee Salvage 7 Re Scratchbuilding Question 8 Re References on HMS Tiger 9 Follow up on German military museum 10 Re Pensacola, Mike Cvibovic and Tiger 11 Re Mayflower 12 Narvik Class Destroyer 13 Deutsches Museum - Munich 14 Re Falkirk Wheel 15 Re Scratch Building Question 16 Warship Projects Forum 17 Re 1/700th Napoleonics ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "Reid, John (AFIT)" Subject Naval bookstores in London I am not London-based but I visit there often. My favourites are . Foyles on Charing Cross Road (go to tube station Tottenham Court Rd and walk south along right hand side of Ch + rd, 2 blocks - Maritime/Naval history is on second floor (VERY disorganised but thorough); . Motorbooks in St Martin's Court, off Charing + Rd (just to south of Leicester St tube, along left side) - there are two stores, Naval is in the basement of the one further from Ch + rd (focussed but less comprehensive) ; . Imperial War Museum Annexe at HMS Belfast, moored in the Thames near Tower Bridge, a fair walk from London Bridge tube station (getting shallower). There are also many interesting bookstores in Greenwich High Street not far from the National Maritime Museum and Greenwich station of the Docklands Light Railway (DLR). Many handle also second-hand books, which the others I mention do not.. You should get off at Cutty Sark station and have a look at her before walking on! Charing Cross Rd is the THE world capital of bookstores of whatever genre. Tottenham Court Rd is on Northern and Central lines, Leicester Sq is on Northern and Piccadilly lines, and London Bridge on many lines including Northern, but a different branch thereof. Consult a Tube map if this is clear as London mud! Buy a Travelcard.... John Reid The Aussie in Rome (whose daughter is at university in the UK, hence the frequent visits) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From Mike C Subject Re scratch building question Oh the virtues of patience... If you want to use Bondo, mix in batches small enough to work with in the time it takes to kick (set up). Build up in layers until you get the desired thickness, then start your final shaping. As an alternative, fill large cavities with anything that will take up space (blocks of wood, chunks of scrap plastic, etc.) and fill the outer layer with Bondo as a working surface. Auto body workers use something that looks like an industrial cheese grater to rough out the shape of Bondo after it starts to set up, but before it completely hardens. That saves a lot of sanding in the long run. Good luck, Mike C ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "Robert Mosher" Subject Re Mayflower You might try contacting Plymouth Plantation in Massachusetts for information. They support a recreation of the original colony - and it is very well done. I imagine you can simply Google and find out how to reach them. There as also a replica Mayflower constructed in England in the 1950s (I believe) and it made at least one crossing of the Atlantic from Plymouth, England. Which makes me think someone either there or in the nearby British naval museum may have some information for you. Robert A. Mosher ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From "Don Macdonald" Subject Scale parts 1/192 LST HEy all I could use some advice i am out of my scale on this one. I usely do 1/8th. I am doing a LST 1156 class, about 25 inches long, Wear can I fine guns and other small parts for this ship and scale, Could sure use some help on it, It is LST 1166 I had enought problems trying to fine a set of plans and That was not all that good but they are working to a point. I will be looking for dual 50s and single 20s. as well as other related parts? If any body has any idea since alot of you I think build in that scale may be able to help this old Portland Rustbucket thankyou Don ( Rusty ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From Gary Kingzett Subject USS New Jersey looks for more visitors To David Wells (and other Tri-Staters) As someone with more than a passing interest in the fate of the Big NJ, I would like to invite you to MosquitoCon, the Morth Jersey IPMS chapter's model show and contest, being held at the Wayne, NJ. PAL facility on Saturday, March 13, from 9 to 4. I am particularly interested in talking with individuals such as yourself who might be able to shed a little light on the ship's problems. And you will have a good time, I promise. 300-400 people, upward of 500 models of all types, 20-30 excellent ships and several enthusiatic ship modelers to talk with. Stop by and say Hi. I'll have a name tag on and look forward to seeing you. Gary Kingzett ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From "José M. Rico" Subject Graf Spee Salvage Hello naval enthusiasts, I thought you could be interesting in the salvage operations of the Graf Spee. Feel free to check the following two photos of the recently rescued telemeter. http//www.kbismarck.com/photos/gs1.jpg http//www.kbismarck.com/photos/gs2.jpg Regards, José M. Rico http//www.kbismarck.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From Subject Re Scratchbuilding Question John Rule asks about use of Bondo car body filler. I have been using polyester resin car body filler for 27 years for my 11200 liners and warships. Yes, it does stink a bit, but the make I use now is by Dynatron, which I buy from Canadian Tire, and is an improvement. If short setting time is a problem try adding the material in small layers, let it set, then add the next layer. To cut down on sanding, excess material can be cut away using a sharp knife or single-edge razor blade while the material is still curing, i.e. just a few minutes after initial set-up. Please get back to me if there is further info you require. Michael London ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From Sanartjam@aol.com Subject Re References on HMS Tiger Hi John, I would think one of the best references to use on the Kombrig Tiger is R.A. Burt's "British Battleships of World War One," which has some photos and good plans (one of which seems to have been reproduced in the Kombrig instructions). A really spectacular photo of the Tiger as built is in Burt & Trotter's "Battleships of the Grand Fleet." The section on the Tiger in Parkes' "British Battleships" has some good photos and drawings of how she changed from 1914 to 1918. There is a lot of information on the Tiger in John Roberts' "Battlecruisers," but no great plans or photos, if I remember correctly. I understand that Paul Webb has been working on a set of plans for the Tiger, but they are not available yet. Is this any help? Good luck! Art Nicholson ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From "Baumbach, Werner" Subject Follow up on German military museum Hallo Steve, I assume, that you are refering to Sinsheim, with an i not an e. It is the Museum of technology, or Technik Museum. Sinsheim is actually closer to Heidelberg and Stuttgart, but I guess closeness is relative. It is about a 90 min drive from Frankfurt, 60 min from Stuttgart and probably something like 2 1/2 to 3 hours from Nuernberg. A couple years ago, it got the Russian version of the Concorde (Tupolew something) on display and just last year, they received the real Concorde, that will go on display in April of this year. Plus as Steve mentioned quite a few military items, larger and smaller. I thought, that the museum could do a better job of explaining some of the items, but if you know what you are looking at, you should have fun. Also, if you are in the area, the museum has a twin at Speyer. There you'll have a section dedicated to ships. I'd estimate that they have about 30 models there and they have a small sub that you can visit. Also a number of other vehicles that you can visit. They have no Concordes, but a 747 on display. If you plan a visit, feel free to contact me ... I may be able to give you additional assistance ... Cheers Werner ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From "Allen Stevens" Subject Re Pensacola, Mike Cvibovic and Tiger A good book store for all maratime books in the uk is Maratime books www.navybooks.com. Run by an ex RN Captain they publish a lot of their own titles, the in focus series are particularly excellent completely full of photographs very little writing! The website also has the ability to sign up for a weekly newsletter on latest books naval news etc. Cant recommend it enough it has kept my projects afloat over many years. Regards Allen Stevens ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From "John Barnum" Subject Re Mayflower Hello Clive The book of the Mayflower from Airfix may be of help to you. It is "Mayflower" Classic ships No.2 by Noel C. L. Hackney and was published by Patrick Stephens Ltd in 1970. ISBN 0 85059 058 2. There is a rigging plan in the front and a diagram of the belaying points in the back of the book. There are some useful pictures and drawings inside. John Barnum Margate UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From "Clary Townsend" Subject Narvik Class Destroyer I am looking for a set of plans for a Narvik Class- Z 34 - Z 38. Since the scale will be 1/96, I will need a relatively well detailed set. Does anyone know if such plans exist,and if so, where I might obtain a set. Thanks, Clary H. Townsend ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From Subject Deutsches Museum - Munich Greetings Re Stephen Verhegyi's visit to Germany. The Deusches Museum in Munich also has a room of ship models of some German warships and other ships, an early U-Boat (U-1, maybe?). It still has some historic airplanes in the main museum, but the satellite museum in Ober Schleissheim, as mentioned before, does have a larger selection. While the airplanes are cool, the main musuem has far greater entertainment value. Even my "museums suck" teenage sons ran rampant through this musuem. The gift shop had a good selection of naval books. Other Bavarian sites the Eagle's Nest near Berchtesgaden. Napoleonic battle sites in Abensburg, Landsuht and Ulm. Ludwig II's castles. Rothenberg and Dinkelsbuehl. The Alps. If you like beer, you will be near to heaven. Try the monestary breweries at Andechs and Weltenberg on the Danube, actually any gasthaus will do. Tip a few for me. Have a good time. John Collins Franklin, TN, USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject Re Falkirk Wheel Thanks to our Scottish cousins for their many interesting responses about the Falkirk Wheel. But I have difficulty believing that no SMML member has been able to furnish a lead on finding model submarine periscopes. Surely some vendor carries such an item, or at least a kit maker should be able to furnish two of them. I do not need the entire thing, just the part that extends above the sail when the vessel is running at periscope depth. Please? Pretty please? Pretty please, with sugar on it? Franklyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From Michael McMurtrey Subject Re Scratch Building Question John Rule wrote >> I built the waterline, knuckle and upperdeck from plasticard, with spacers to set everything to the right height. I now want to fill the gaps between to form and shape the hull properly. What do you use for filler? << Use a rigid foam plastic styrofoam or urethane. Florist's foam and buider's styrofoam insulation are readily available. Cut a chunk big enough to fill the void, glue it in with an appropriate adhesive (super glue for styrofoam or a contact cement), rough shape it with sandpaper, then plank over it with strips of styrene and/or putty over it with bondo or something similar. Michael McMurtrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From "Melvin Burmaster" Subject Warship Projects Forum I am inviting all with an interest in “never builts” or who want to discuss technical issues associated with naval designs which never hit the water to come visit (and join) us at Warship Projects Forum. So far we have had an international set of contributors who have revealed heretobefore unknown designs and some historical corrections. I trust those with an interest in warship design or modeling will find the site of interest. Respectfully, MJBurmaster ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From "Kathy/Pirie Sublett" Subject Re 1/700th Napoleonics To Robert Lockie, et al According to the Skytrex website, their Meridian Line is 1/700th. It includes British and French ships. Perhaps the haggis was a bit off? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at http//smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at http//apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume