Subject: SMML VOL 2452 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 05:04:21 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re Revell's 4 Stacker 2 New Topic; Steam Sloops and Frigates 3 Re NoVACon 2004 4 Next question 5 Copyright -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1 Task Force Hobbies Check out my News section for New Releases ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "Les Pickstock" Subject Re Revell's 4 Stacker I can't speak to the O class but the Revell isn't bad considerings its age. For reference "Anatomy of a Ship- H.M.S.Campbelltown" could be regarded as essential. The kit itself has a couple of major drawbacks is moulded with major "Tramlines" ans these have to go. Also assembly has it fitting under a heavy "curb" where it should be flat all the way across, they were known as "flush deck" destroyers. Secondly the main armament is way over scale and scratchbuilt replacements may be called for. Be prepared for quite a lot of work with this kit and for a really super model, add Loren Perry's PE set. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From THEGAVEL@aol.com Subject New Topic; Steam Sloops and Frigates I have been considering building some models of Civil War wooden warships. I know that not much is offered in kits (the Hartford and Alabama were at one time, but not currently -- as is much the same case for Spanish American Warships) and figure that it would have to be pretty much a scratch building but possibly using some parts from existing kits. I know of a few photographic references but not much in the way of diagrams (although basic dimensions and armament are generally available). Panzerschiffes makes some 1/2400 scale wargaming models which are somewhat helpful. Has anyone ever looked into building a Wabash, Mississippi, Rhode Island or 90 day gunboat? Failing that, what was produced in the way of plastic kits where an instruction sheet with diagrams may have survived? Thanks, John Gavel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "Leonard, Michael W" Subject Re NoVACon 2004 >> I don't know a thing about the NoVACon, but I can tell you that like just about every other show I've ever been to, the wingy thingies dominate at Mosquitocon. Sad fact of life, I'm afraid we're a minority. << Having attended this IPMS show (hosted at Fairfax H.S.) for the last several years, there are no vendors in attendance who specifically deal in ship models or related aftermarket items. You might get lucky and see a few new or OOP kits for sale, but it'll be 99% aircraft, armor, and figures. Likewise a few ship models trickle through the door to be entered into competition, alongside hundreds of planes and tanks. Mike Alexandria, VA USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject Next question Thanks for the comments about procuring periscopes. Also thanks for the information about the Falkirk Wheel in Scotland. Next question. Did (or do) the German and/or the Russian military have something similar to our Marine Corps ? I think the Japanese did in WW2, but don't know about now. I'm equally unsure about the French, currently. Also, I am not sure about England at the present time. Comments, SMML? Franklyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From "Daniel Taylor" Subject Copyright Hi All, Someone must know this.. I was at a model show the weekend before last, minding my own business, when some complete stranger asked me a question about my models "How do you get around the copyright when you make a model?" I shot him a glance that implied that I did not wish to speak to him ever again. He clearly took it as meaning I had no idea what he was talking about. Slowly he explained that surely the design was someone elses intellectual property and, therefore, he assumed that we model makers had to pay some kind of reproduction fee to the designer. To fob him off, I said something about copyright lapsing after fifty years (I was exhibiting WWII subject matter) and that therefore the matter does not arise. To demonstrate the truth of my arguement, I beat him around the head with a piece of 4x2. He had no follow up questions. But the event stuck in my mind and leads me to ask a) I have no idea if what said is true. When does copyright end? b) As I build masters for others to produce, is it them or me who is liable? c) What are the chances of litigation? d) Do Tamiya, Trumpeter et al pay and some form of limitation apply to one off models? e) Is there anything else I should know before embarking on a modern subject? Thanks for your thoughts, Dan Taylor No fixed abode (for obvious reasons I don't want to be traced) UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Billgior@aol.com Subject Task Force Hobbies Check out my News section for New Releases Hi Everyone Just a quick message to let you know that I will have in stock soon Imperial Hobby Models USS South Dakota BB-49 1921 & the USS Lexington Battlecruiser CC-1 1921. I also have a 10% off retail sale going on all plastic model kits and resin kits also. You can e-mail your orders to billgior@aol.com or phone in your orders at (313)295-0293. remember I will match any price, so come and check us out. Sincerely, Bill Giordano www.TaskForceHobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at http//smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at http//apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume