Subject: SMML VOL 2469
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 00:44:41 +1000

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MODELLERS INDEX

1 Re Potemkin
2 Re Portholes
3 Re Potemkin uniforms
4 Donald Duck Navy
5 Pit Road 1/72 kits
6 Plane rearming boats and plane personnel boats
7 Re Portholes? Nope
8 The Revel Mark 11V/c U Boat

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MODELLERS

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From Roland Mar <tsuma@rmi.net> 
Subject Re Potemkin

>> Working steadily on a Combrig 1/700 Potemkin. Thanks for the advice regarding the colour scheme. I hope to have it finished in time for the
IPMS Scottish Nationals in Perth at the end of April. But that all depends on how much the wife wants me to do in the garden!! -( or -)  it's all down to the weather!!

 Now for a question regarding the crew. (If you're doing the Potemkin then you really HAVE to do it as a diorama with hordes of excited sailors running about waving red flags. That's what I say, anyhow.) What colour of uniform did the sailors of the Black Sea Fleet wear in 1905? If I remember the film correctly, I think they wore all white, but I may have seen photos with white tops and dark trousers.

 Any more definitive information would be gratefully received.

 For obvious reasons, I'm not that interested in the officers' uniforms, as there were probably not that many left on board!! <<

 TO David Griffith
 RE Kniaz Potemkin

 This depends on my failing memory, but if you can get hold of an old copy of "The Potemkin Mutiny" by Richard Hough [originally published by Pantheon Books in 1961], I believe that it has a number of black and white pictures from the actual mutiny and the period when it was in Odessa. There are also, I believe, some pictures from the Eisenstein movie about the event. Those, while probably being reasonably accurate, cannot be relied on on without further research. I now have a Naval Institute Press reprint under their Bluejacket Books label. It does not have the photo section I remember from 40 years ago when I read the book [in 6th grade or so, my taste in reading material having always been ..... unorthodox <smile>]. It does have a photo of the mutiny's leader, Matushenko, in sailor's uniform during the mutiny on the cover. In 1/700 I assume that you are not too concerned with things like specific rating badges, etc.

 If anyone else on the list has the book, they can check and see if my memory is correct, and may be willing to post the information as to whether the pictures exist.

 I hope this is of some help.

 Roland Mar
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From "Bruce Ross" <sbross1@charter.net> 
Subject Re Portholes

 Rusty Asked

>> I'm building a 1/350 USS Long Beach and I noticed what appears to be some rather large porthole looking details on the bulkheads. Can anyone tell me exactly what these are? I find it hard to believe the US navy would put such large prtholes on a warship or any other vessel. <<

 From what I remember during my time aboard the Long Beach; there were some features on the bulkheads in the areas of the missile houses that kind of looked like portholes. I was told, and it could very well have been a sea story, that they were blowout panels in case of any detonations inside the missile house. They were painted over just like all the rest of the bulkhead.

 Bruce Ross
 ComCruDesGru-One 78-80
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From <jmalondon@rogers.com> 
Subject Re Potemkin uniforms

 To quote Richard Hough in his book"The Potemkin Mutiny" (excellent reading if you can locate a copy), the  ship's company, with the exception of the officers,

 "were dressed in their summer uniform of white bell-bottoms, white jumper over blue and white jersey, and cap with a long ribbon-tail falling down the back".

 He also refers elsewhere to their caps as being white. Their feet would have been bare, at least for swabbing decks but probably as standard
dress in summer.

 Michael London
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From Fkbrown90@aol.com 
Subject Donald Duck Navy

 As usual, Captain Treadwell is absolutely correct, This time he rectifies my erroneous reference about the Donald Duck Navy as being a WW1 nickname. Therefore please scratch that reference and add "Cinderellas of the Fleet".

 Franklyn
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From Ron Crawford <ron.crawford@adelphia.net> 
Subject Pit Road 1/72 kits

 Can anyone steer me to a source for the 1/72 scale Pit Road  Italian "CB" Class midget submarine submarine?

 Thanks.
 Ron Crawford
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From "Doug Wilde" <dbwilde@comcast.net> 
Subject Plane rearming boats and plane personnel boats

 While reading the World War II War Diaries of the Ninth Naval District I regularly find reference to the building and delivery of

 24' plane personnel boats
 and
 33' plane rearming boats

 Anyone have a line on these?
 Picture?
 Drawing?

 Thanks,

 Doug Wilde
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From Darren Scannell <hawkone@sympatico.ca> 
Subject Re Portholes? Nope

 Missile assembly room blow out panels (rupture discs). They were on most of the superstructure sides of the early missile equipped ships along the areas where the missiles were assembled and or stored. I assume that more modern ships have them concealed into the ships sides or maybe modern ships are so lightly built that they don't need them anymore?!

 Darren
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From EDBRIGDALE@aol.com 
Subject The Revel Mark 11V/c U Boat

 Right! We have the kit and a bit of input from the rivet counters, now what about the best refference source [book] on this class of U Boat. I am sure smml's have a view regarding them.

 "Try the other eye Horatio"
  Ed Brigdale
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