Subject: SMML VOL 2501 Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 02:19:29 +100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Tora Tora Tora 2 Naval Terminology 3 Re So just what do they say at the end of the movie Tora Tora Tora 4 Re IJN portholes 5 Re IJN portholes 6 Kirov - two propellers? Three? Four? 7 JAG ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "O'Connor" Subject Tora Tora Tora I have always figured that DOWSZU at the end of the movie did NOT mean, "well fellas, it's Miller time". Probably something more like "I think we pissed off the wrong cowboy...". At any rate, it's a well placed comment, strategically and dramatically inserted to let the moviegoer know that SOMEONE on that ship knew the crap was gonna hit the fan. Just my Yank two cents worth... Bob O'Connor, in Florida, where the temps are starting to rise to summer proportions and the humidity is on the rise. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Dean, Tom" Subject Naval Terminology Hi Gang Just been thinking that "traffic" on the list has been slow lately, so thought it would be a good time to bring something up that I have thought about a few times. It's the different terms used in various naval service, often for the same item or person. What got me thinking about it again, was a few requests lately about information on portholes. In the R.C.N. they were called "scuttles" and I know the same was true in the R.N. Pity the poor lad (Ordinary Seaman) who called them a "porthole" in the presence of a senior rating. It would be pointed out to him that he was serving "in" (not on) a warship not a pleasure ship! Other terms that come to mind that are different or unique were "Buffer" as opposed to "Chief Bosun's Mate" - "Chief Yeoman" to denote the Chief Signalman rather than a Chief Ships or Captains Writer (like John Snyder) - "Pots" (Petty Officer Telegraphist) to denote senior radio operator on board rather that "Chief Radioman" - "Killick" to denote a Leading Seaman etc. I can think of many more, but though it might be fun to start a dialogue on terms used in various Navies, so will leave them up to others if the want to join in. Tom Dean Hamilton, Ontario (New home of HMCS HAIDA) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "keith" Subject Re So just what do they say at the end of the movie Tora Tora Tora Hi SMMLies, I agree with Kurt, I been wondering the same for many year now. Maybe my friend in Japan, Mitsuaki, will read this and know the answer. Keith ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From dan@lcpremiums.com Subject Re IJN portholes >> A recent debate over portholes on Imperial Japanese Navy carrier Zuiho. The Hasagawa 1/700th waterline kit shows many rows of portholes along the entire length of the hull. The debate rages over whether or not those ports or most were welded over with amour plate. Is the kit wrong? << By 1944, most, if not all, IJN vessels had many of their portholes welded shut in order to improve watertight integrity in case of damage. This would include Zuiho. References I have show her to have the lowest row of portholes completely welded over as well as those on the next deck, save those closest to the bow and stern. It's not so much that the kit is wrong as it is that the mold is serving double duty for an early war Shoho as well as the late war Zuiho. You can just fill in the necessary holes. Dan Kaplan, NYC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From Randy Ward Subject Re IJN portholes >> Second question. Realistic welds on early steel hulled clippers like the "Balclutha" How do you achieve a scale exterior uneven weld? << I don't recall having ever done this, but what I'd try is laying down a very thin piece of Evergreen styrene (.010x.020?), and give it a good soaking with solvent. When it's soft, nudge it along the sides to make them a bit uneven, then let it dry a little, them give it another soak with solvent to round the edges out a bit. Try it on some scrap styrene. 'Just a thought. Cap'n Randy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From "Agustin Tirona" Subject Kirov - two propellers? Three? Four? How many propellers and rudders does the Kirov-class battlecruiser have? Anyone has full hull line drawings of it? Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From "keith" Subject JAG Hi SMMLies, Would Tom at JAG please contact me, Thanks, Keith ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at http//smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at http//apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume