Subject: SMML VOL 2511
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 00:20:09 +1000

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MODELLERS INDEX

1 Vancouver hobby shops
2 Re Looking for Mexican Gunboat images
3 Re Canadian Hobby shops
4 Vancouver visit
5 Canadian holidays - Toronto
6 Searching for Images of Guerrero
7 1/72 Flush Deck Destroyer
8 Flush Decker Lights
9 Re History Channel

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MODELLERS

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From Keith Butterley <keithbutterley@shaw.ca> 
Subject Vancouver hobby shops

 Hi Gordon,
 
 Burnaby Hobbies in Burnaby on Rumble and it is approximately two blocks south of the Royal Oak Skytrain station.
 
 There is one in New Westminster on 6th Ave whose name escapes me at the moment, it is two blocks east of the NW Skytrain station. You then turn left on 6th and  go up one block.
 
 Imperial Hobbies in Richmond (the only place worth living around here <g>) which is on No 3 Rd between Alderbridge and Lansdowne across from the Lansdowne Mall.
 
 I don't think there are any others worth checking out.
 
 Enjoy your visit.
 
 Keith Butterley
 warshipbooks.com/West Coast Models
 Vancouver site of the 2010 Olympics
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From Luis Terán <luis_teranmx@yahoo.com.mx> 
Subject Re Looking for Mexican Gunboat images

 Hi

 Some time ago, a painting of the attack appeared on the cover of "Aviation History". Apparently (correct me if I am wrong) it was the first attack by an airplane on a ship. I know I have the number somewhere, but I haven’t been able to find it.  Maybe somebody else does.

 L Teran
 Monterrey, Mexico
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From Darren Scannell <hawkone@sympatico.ca> 
Subject Re Canadian Hobby shops

 Sorry Gordon, Hobby shops aren't allowed in Canada.

>> I am going on holiday to Canada next week and was wondering whether anyone can recommend good model shops in Vancouver, Toronto & Montral. This is for a couple of days in each. <<

 But if I were going to any of these fine cities, here's what I would look for

 There are three main shops in TO.

 In the east end, Scarborough, on Markham rd, just south of the 401 is Collectors lane, a good all around shop with lot's to look at including some older stuff.
 In the middle is Keith's, north of the 401 on Yonge st. Smaller, but lot's of good stuff.
 In the west, Mississauga, on Dundas, just west of Dixie is Northstar, another good all around shop with some good selection of detail stuff.

 Nothing that specifically caters to ship stuff. Also a few RC shops around, like John's downtown.

 Been a while since I was in Vancouver, but in Burnaby, look for Burnaby Hobbies on Rumble st, I think. They used to have a decent selection of ship stuff. There are other shops in Vancouver as well, check out the phone book!

 In Montreal, go to Udisco for sure if they're still open.

 I don't have addresses at the moment, but the yellow pages will supply those and phone numbers.

 Have fun!!!

 Darren Scannell
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From "Ron Wild" <wild1@pacificcoast.net> 
Subject Vancouver visit

 Hi Gordon...

 There is a hobby shop in Burnaby (a suburb of Vancouver) that speciallizes in model boats. It is called Burnaby Hobbies and is located on
Rumble Street in Burnaby. (Ask for John Tarvin) You should also visit the Model Museum on Granville Island, located in downtown Vancouver. It is a must see.
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From "DarekL" <tonclass@sympatico.ca> 
Subject Canadian holidays - Toronto

 here you have all the biggest hobby stores in Toronto;

 NORTH STAR HOBBIES - 1185 Dundas St. East, Mississauga, 905 566-4758
 COLLECTOR'S LANE HOBBIES - #1 1220 Markham Rd., 416 264-4941
 KEITH'S HOBBY SHOP - 5205 Yonge Street, 416 222-4721
 AVIATION WORLD - 195 Carlingview Dr., 416 674-5959
 WHEELS AND WINGS - 2875 St.Claire Ave. East, 416 752-0071

 Have a nice trip and enjoy your stay in Toronto.

 Darius
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From "Ed Bertschy" <elb@securaplane.com> 
Subject Searching for Images of Guerrero

 Vickers, Sons & Maxim

 Guerrero was a fairly substantial ship, about 200 feet long and weighing 1,880 tons. Built by Vickers Sons & Maxim, Barrow-in-Furness in England in 1908, she was variously described as a cruiser, transport and gunboat. She mounted six 4-inch guns, two 3-pounders and probably some machine guns. She was somewhat underpowered for naval service, however, and her 1,200-hp reciprocating steam engine could produce only 12 knots of speed. The ship had spent the previous five years in routine patrols along the Mexican coast. 

 Any photos?

 Ed
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From "Reid, John (AFIT)" <John.Reid@fao.org> 
Subject 1/72 Flush Deck Destroyer

 Suggest consult also "Flush Decks and Four Pipes" by John Alden, USNI Press - was reprinted in the 90s after being O/P for years. I think that photo reproductions are sharper in the first printing if you have a choice; there were no editorial updates that I could see in the reprint, but the book's binding was more conventional. Photos are all b/w and I don't think that either this book or Freidman will answer your precise question, but there are many photos which you will fiund interesting/vital.

 Maybe find a reputable museum with a museum-quality model of the subject - any suggestions?

 John Reid
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From "George Peat" <gpeat@globalnet.co.uk> 
Subject Flush Decker Lights

 Ned,

 Thanks for your mail about my problem with signal lights

 Thanks
 George Peat  BEM
 [Secretary TF72/UK]
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From "Tom Detweiler" <testology@inreach.com> 
Subject Re History Channel

 I encourage any SMMLies who have cable or satellite TV to check the listings on the History channel-- recently their offerings have included lots of Naval history of all sorts. Mssrs. Barnett and Friedman have been all over the channel adding their expertise, and my thanks to them.
Yesterday was a Deep Sea Detectives segment on the USS Murphy, DD603, which had its bow sliced off during a collision in 1943-- the bow section sank but the ship aft of the forward turret remained afloat and was even restored to duty with a new bow and even served during D-Day! Absolutely fascinating. Tonight there was a one hour show on Carriers, and this week there's a two hour special on the Technology of the D-Day invasion-- there is supposed to be lots on LCVs and LSTs, so heads up! What a great week for shipbuilding background on the History channel!

 Tom Detweiler in Grass Valley CA
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