Subject: SMML VOL 2522 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 01:30:16 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Noah, God and the ark vs. the USS Nimitz 2 Re Noah's ark 3 Re Dreadnought 4 1/700 Flush Deck Detroyer kit search -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1 Great books for sale 2 Re WTB 1/144 Schnellboot Klasse 143 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "Robert Lockie" Subject Noah, God and the ark vs. the USS Nimitz >> As for wildly optimistic and too big to be practical, have these British TV people ever seen a Nimitz class carrier?? << Dave I have re-read my original post and I think it was fairly clear that the impracticality was related rather more to the material used (wood) than to the size per se. I have not been aboard a Nimitz class CVN to check but I think they use metal to make it, no doubt because wood was found to limit the size of the ship back in the 19th Century in a way which steel and iron did not. The stability to which I referred was not its tendency to roll (I don’t think a plank of wood is a particularly good analogy to a ship anyway) but its ability to hold together in the forces that a sea would impose on it. Even modern steel ships (VLCCs come to mind) are prone to breaking up in rough seas and I bet a weld is stronger than a few nails hammered into some pieces of timber, particularly if he had no experience of building ocean-going vessels. And from where would all the wood have come? I’m not getting into a discussion about whether God knew more about marine engineering than modern naval architects but as an omnipotent being who is everywhere anyway, I suspect that his (or her) need to know of such matters was rather limited by comparison. Robert Lockie Swindon UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Tim Perry" Subject Re Noah's ark So, this Ark vessel. Bow doors like an LST? Or maybe a ramp, like an LCT. Or was it RO-RO? Cranes? Containers? How was the forage stored? How was it distributed? How did they feed the carnivores? Anyone calculated how many crew were needed? How did they stop the 'passengers' doing what comes naturally; anyone remember the Trouble with Tribbles? Guinea Pigs and Gerbils can do the same thing, let alone greenfly..... How big was the rudder? How many crew on the tiller? Maybe no rudder, after all they managed to collide with a mountain.... Did it have sails? Paddles? Oars? Was it nailed together, or glued? I think Isambard Kingdom Brunel is a more worthy subject of study in the ways of inovative BIG ship design. Tim Perry wunwinglow www.tjpgraphics.com for digital aviation modelling www.kipperboxes.co.uk for 1200 Warship models PS What on earth did they do with all that manure? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From Masashi Ito Subject Re Dreadnought Hello, Thank you for all replies to my inquiry about the Dreadnought! They were very helpful. Masashi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From "Matthew Prager" Subject 1/700 Flush Deck Detroyer kit search I'm looking for a 1/700 kit of the US WWI Flush-Deck Destroyer, preferably in plastic but resin is okay too. Any suggestions/recommendations on which manufacturer's offer kits? Matt Prager ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From SAMI ARIM Subject Great books for sale Hello all, I have listed some really nice books on Ebay under seller id "shaship". There are Ensign, Man o'War, Maru specials, soon Orizzonte Mares and more. Please take a look. Thanks, Sami Arim ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Jeffry Fontaine" Subject Re WTB 1/144 Schnellboot Klasse 143 >> name your price>> Hi John; Thanks for the "Schnell" response. Naming the price could get complicated. Where do you live? Postage can play havoc with any kit purchase if you are not aware of where the package is going to be shipped from. I know from personal experience with some Canadian modelers that wanted to purchase a couple kits from me and it turned out that the postage was more than the kit was worth. I paid ~$20.00 USD each for the two 143A Klasse Schnellboot kits that I picked up from a local hobbyshop. I would offer you the same price I paid, $20.00 for the kit and what ever the postage comes to. afn, Jeff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at http//smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at http//apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume