Subject: SMML VOL 2569 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 02:22:09 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Wildwood, NJ patrol boat? 2 Otto fuel for MK48s 3 Ebay items 4 Re USS Ward 5 Re Submarine Disasters 6 Re Sunken subs ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Gary Subject Wildwood, NJ patrol boat? Was on vacation recently and saw what looked like a civilian owned small grey patrol boat tied up at dock. Had a small "109" stencilled on the front. Sorry don't have more details than that. Was just curious if anyone local had any idea what it might be. TIA Gary Schurr ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From EDWARD GRUNE Subject Otto fuel for MK48s Chuck asked >> What kind of monopropellant is used in the Mark 48? Would it work to power a sub? << Remembering back to my days of simulating the the MK48 torpedo and MK96 fire control system models for the Trident Command & Control Team Trainers, I came across some of the cautionary information in the NWPs on the handling of Otto, and what to do in case of a spill. While Otto isn't as "reactive" as Hydrogen Peroxide, it has its own set of problems which must be dealt with. Chief among these, IIRC, is that the main by-product of combustion is Hydrogen Cyanide. Not good in enclosed spaces. Does any state still use cyanide in their death chambers? Ed Grune ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From PaulShip37@aol.com Subject Ebay items Things seen on Ebay 7-ft model of Italian Armored ship "Duilo", built by the Italian government for display at the 1933 World's Fair ( many photos) Ebay item # 3736658461 Book- Ensign 4- Queen Elizabeth Class BB's, the same seller has several other books of interest. Ebay item # 5910460239 Book- British Battleships of WWII ( Ravens and Roberts), everyone seems to think highly of this one. Ebay item # 6913657951 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From Ned Barnett Subject Re USS Ward I have some photos (B&W) of the Ward at Pearl Harbor, provided by the USN for an article I edited for IPMS. Looks to me like it was in the standard haze gray scheme in use at that time (I forget the measure) - but there was nothing camouflage-ish about the colors. Wish that was enough to help. Ned ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From Ned Barnett Subject Re Submarine Disasters Thanks to all who've helped me out with references to sunk-subs. I've saved every one and also forwarded them on to the History Channel - these will materially help in making the documentary superior to what it would have otherwise been (very good, I'm sure, but not as good as it will be now). Thanks again. And tune in to WW-I Tech (Modern Marvels, History Channel, July 28) to see a program that has much of interest on WW-I subs, and a chance to laugh at my attempts to explain how a WW-I gas mask works (as the rubber crumpled into my hands ...). All the best Ned ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject Re Sunken subs Another disaster receiving much public attention was the American submarine S 4, accidentally rammed and sunk by a destroyer while on maneuvers off the coast of New England. I believe it was in the late 1920s. I also think there was a book written about it. Franklyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at http//smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at http//apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume