Subject: SMML VOL 2605 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 01:48:14 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re Scale 1/48 parts 2 Perth Camouflage 3 Re Swift boat model 4 Re Mediterranean Maritime Museums 5 Re Scale 1/48 parts 6 Re KGV Class Battleships POW etc 7 Re Motorizing Revel S-boote 8 HMS Relentless model mystery 9 Re Hobby shops in Nashville 10 Re Best Yamato/Musashi in 700th -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1 Re Scale 1/48 parts ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "George Peat" Subject Re Scale 1/48 parts An excellent source of 1/48th scale fittings is either Sirmar here in the UK or Loyal Hanna in USA, Sirmar web site www.sirmarmodelships.com Loyal Hanna www.loyalhannadockyard.com I have dealt with both and had excellent results George Peat ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Robert P. Mattis" Subject Perth Camouflage I noticed the question on HMS Exeters camouflage at the time of her sinking. Does anyone know what camouflage the Perth was wearing at the Battle of Sunda Strait when she was sunk along with the USS Houston? Bob Mattis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From aweiner601@optonline.net Subject Re Swift boat model The only swift kit worth anything is the DEANS MARINE one, which is rather expensive but very very nice. Last I heard it was around 375.00-425.00 american dollars!! It is 25 inches long and beautiful..My company has done a few of these for buyers, and it comes out to a museum quality piece. It was originally done for r/c, but makes a beautiful static model..good luck.. artie weiner American Precision Models ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From URUDOFSKY@aol.com Subject Re Mediterranean Maritime Museums Some are listed at the Nautical Research Guild web site in alphabetical order by country http//www.naut-res-guild.org/museum.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From RDemeyere@aol.com Subject Re Scale 1/48 parts >> I'm looking for sources for 1/48 scale WWII ship parts, davits, 40's 20's, small boats, rafts, fire hoses, deck fittins etc. Also wanting to know locations that can cast from metal parts in plastics. << Dain, Try H& R Products (http//www.hrprod.com). Quality varies with the age of the mold but they have a variety of ranges including 1/48. Russ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From " Kjetil Lindahl" Subject Re KGV Class Battleships POW etc raymond guy" asked >> 1) How many access doors are there on the rear of the HA 5.25 inch turret. The poor quality photos I have seem to indicate there are two, one on either side of the ladder to the turret top ? 2) Are there four access doors on A & Y turrets ie two pairs on either side of the rear of the turret? Access to B turret, was that through a wt door in the barbette facing the bridge structure as this is not apparent on any of the photos I have. << There is one door on the rear of each 5.25 turret. The turrets where identical. The door was on the same side on all turrets, so some are inboard of the ladder and some are outboard, depending on how the turret is facing on the ship. 3 small hatches on the front of each turret. The turrets had a small vent on one side forward thats missing in the kit. The main turrets had no doors on the rear, but two rows of plate covers covering explosion vent holes in the rear armour plate. Thats probably what you are seeing. The turrets had prominent sighting ports in the front plate. No doors on barbette. If there is a hatch it would probably be on the underside of the overhang on back of the turret. Regards. Kjetil Lindahl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From "Dirk Emmermacher" Subject Re Motorizing Revel S-boote >> Not too many moons ago there was an article on installing a RC unit and motorizing the 1/72 Revel S-Boote. Does any one remember how the access panels for the RC installation were arranged on the deck? Or will it be possible for a member to scan and email the article for me? << Hello Kevin. Go to http//ww.mikromodell.de -> Schiffe Click on the image of S100. In the bottom of the page you'll find the owners mailaddress. He's be able to give the answers to your problems... Best regards from Hannover, Germany Dirk Emmermacher IG Mikromodell http//www.mikromodell.de mailtoemmermacher@hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From Mike Potter Subject HMS Relentless model mystery About mystery weapons on Les Brown's photo of the early model of the Type 15 frigate (http//smmlonline.com/reference/misc_ship/relentless01.jpg), discussed in SMML 2593-2596 An ASW ship would fire flares to illuminate a surfaced submarine at close range. As built the Type 15s and other ships mounted exposed racks on the 4-inch gun shield for flare rockets. Unlike all the other ASW systems on the Type 15, the flares required placing sailors on the weather decks. Perhaps these mystery weapons on the Type 15 model were mortars or rocket tubes for illumination flares. An enclosed flare launcher like the forward launcher could support the Type 15's ASW mission in icy weather or radiological conditions. That would explain the short, broad barrels, and the use of a revolving mount. The photos perhaps evaluated a proposal for such a launcher. Such a weapon would require neither a specialized director nor a substantial magazine. Converting a surplus 40mm quad mount for the purpose seems practical and would explain the layout of the forward mount. It would be analogous to RCN frigates in the 1950s that mounted surplus K guns to launch lightweight ASW torpedoes. (RCN DDEs fired flares from their USN 3-inch/50 guns. Four [IREs] that lost their USN mounts during modernization received instead dedicated flare launchers.) The tube launchers atop the model's bridge perhaps were associated with the adjacent gunnery direction equipment (GDS-2), to visually illuminate a radar contact that closed inside the radar's minimum range. Again, the photos might represent a proposal for evaluation. Thoughts? Cheers, Mike Potter San Diego ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From Subject Re Hobby shops in Nashville Steve Sadly, there are no hobby shops worthy of the name in Nashville or its environs. Seriously, I probably have more kits than most of the stores. But if you need a plastic fix while here, visit Phillips Toy Mart at 5207 Harding Road. There are the usual Hobby Lobbies and Hobbytowns but their selection is rather pedestrian. On the other hand, there are several good beer places. Visit the Flying Saucer in Union Station on West End Avenue. It's a good place to entertain visiting SMML listmates; there are at least two of us in town. Feel free to contact me offline for more Nashiville information. John Collins Franklin, TN, USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From "Mitsuaki Kubota" Subject Re Best Yamato/Musashi in 700th I don't have any Yamato/Musashi kit of three manufactures, so followings are info from Japanese modelling magazine, web or BBS. But I hope these help. The Nichimo kit was oldest of the three. Initially, Nichimo staff intended to develop more accurate kit of Yamato/Musashi than Tamiya ones (old mould). Generally, Nichimo kits have better appearance than Tamiya old kit. The width of fo'c'sle, positioning of breakwater are example. Rumour says that the Nichimo staff was in fact "Tamiya enthusiast", and he aimed to release accurate kit to compensate error of Tamiya Yamato/Musashi. But Nichimo couldn't develop crisp mould because of short cost. So Nichimo kits are said looking better with Tamiya small parts. (FYI, 30cm motorized kits are completely different mould from 1/700 kits.) Next, Tamiya new moulds. They were released 6 years ago, but still have good potential. It is still true even after the release of Fujimi kits. Tamiya new ones are including many new study fruits (including Sikorski's work). Yamato kit showing her final appearance with many AA armaments, and Musashi kit on her completion with 4 triple 15.5cm secondary armaments. One of most important influence of Tamiya new Yamato/Musashi is that, as far as I feel, it leads re-tooling of old 1/700 ship kits. Finally, Fujimi. One of Fujimi's advantage is that modellers can choose two variants of "on completion" and "final appearance", though both of later configuration Yamato/Musashi kits aren't yet released. Fujimi is developing different mould for hull, with reduced porthole. Another advantage of Fujimi is cheaper cost than Tamiya. The moulds are generally good and better than Fujimi's previous works. But some of Japanese modellers are criticizing that Fujimi kits doesn't including new study of 6 years after the release of Tamiya kits. Rumour says Fujimi is intending to release IJN 8" gun cruisers. It is not bad that Fujimi developing new ship kits with gains from Yamato/Musashi. But most of Japanese modeller feel it is Kongo classes that Fujimi should re-tool. These are all I can depict. Again, hope these helps. PS I'm sorry that I have forgotten to write some point. Nichimo kits are one shaft motorized kit, and have bottom hull. Newer Tamiya or Fujimi kits are of course better than Nichimo, but both are water line kits. It is said Nichimo hull bottom can be fitted Tamiya or Fujimi with some surgery. To build correct full hull model, you have to scratchbuild four shaft. But it would be solved converting propellers from other kits. Hope this help. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From LHDockyard@aol.com Subject Re Scale 1/48 parts >> I'm looking for sources for 1/48 scale WWII ship parts, davits, 40's 20's, small boats, rafts, fire hoses, deck fittins etc. Also wanting to know locations that can cast from metal parts in plastics. << We have the parts you are looking for in this scale from many suppliers. You can check out what we have available on our website www.loyalhannadockyard.com. We can also take care of your casting needs Regards Don ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at http//smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at http//apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume