Subject: SMML VOL 2616 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:54:19 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re enlarging scale ship plans on a copier 2 Re Enlarging/reducing plans on a copier 3 Re QM 2 4 Re enlarging scale ship plans on a copier 5 Re enlarging scale ship plans on a copier 6 Re Nautilus models Laser Etched wood... 7 "Encyclopedia of Ships" 8 Friendship 9 Re Nautilus Wood deck ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From "Simon Scheuer" Subject Re enlarging scale ship plans on a copier >> Are the horizontal and vertical magnification scales the same on all or any copy machines? Or is there some inherent distortion? << There is distortion in any "photo" process. If you keep the scanned area small and the magnified area small within the overall copier plate area, it should be OK. But ship plans won't do that easily. You would wind up cutting the plans into small sections to do a good enlargement. Some machines are better and more accurate than others. If you use the enlargement services or Kinko et al, you should check several dimensions of the enlarged plan carefully against the original to see what kind of distortion you got. The best answer short of redrawing the plan completely is the CAD drawing enlargement from a scan that someone made reference to on this list. Simon's $0.02 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From Subject Re Enlarging/reducing plans on a copier A quick way to check for vertical vs horizontal distortion is to print something small, turn it at right angles and print again. If no distortion the two copies will be identical. You can check by placing one over the other and holding up to a strong light source. Michael London ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "Naval Models" Subject Re QM 2 The Airfix/Heller people start thinking very smart. We have had the Heller QM2 for sale for a couple of weeks now. This is a big box with paint etc in it and we still had to wait for the cheaper Airfix kit. I think the kit will be the same you must learn to like the new design of liners. The kit on it selfs is impressing. Greetings, Michiel Woort The Netherlands ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From Ken LeClair Subject Re enlarging scale ship plans on a copier Hello, another thing to add, copiers will have some distortion on either plane unless they are precisely calibrated, but most copiers are adjusted to enlarge slightly so the edges of the paper being copied don't show, therefore, any enlargements will have the same error. Again, Good Luck Ken LeClair Victoria, BC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From Michael Aono Subject Re enlarging scale ship plans on a copier >> No one mentioned that you should check the scale of your drawing first. Verify a known dimension. Waterline length will do. Say you are doing a Cruiser that is 600' at the wl. The plan dimension should be 600' divided by the scale, 600 = 1'. If it is not 1' plus or minus say 1/32" then the plan is not 1/600 and you can't use 1.7123 unless you don't really care if it is exact scale. << I agree with Simon. Furthermore, what are you using the plans for? If you are using the enlarged reproductions to build a ship, then you are in for a big headache. Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From "David N. Lombard" Subject Re Nautilus models Laser Etched wood... From Graeme Martin >> Has anyone checked this out and can they tell me what the quality is like please? 1/72 U-Boat Wood Deck Kit for RVL #5015 Nautilus models Laser Etched wood deck for the 1/72 Revell U-Boat. These decks also include several resin details for hatches to make your U-Boat rise above the rest. << A review http//www.modelwarships.com/reviews/misc/nautilus/72-uboat-deck/laseretch.htm There's also http//www.whiteensignmodels.com/brochure/1_72_photo-etch1.htm Google is Your Friend! I saw yet another PE set today at Military Shop in Long Beach, CA. I have directions for this store at http//www.lombardsnest.com/dnl/hobby-shops.html David N. Lombard Rossmoor, Orange County, CA N 33 deg, 48', W 118 deg, 5' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject "Encyclopedia of Ships" Useful book - published in 2001 by Thunder Bay Press, San Diego, CA. The author is Tony Gibbons. It covers over 1,500 military and civilian ships from all nations from 5,000 B.C. to the present day, 534 pages. Includes photo or drawing of each ship and pertinent info on each. It is a good reference source. Regards, John Kutina ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From "John Mills" Subject Friendship May I say that as a humble model maker, I think everyone is so supportive of this group. I had a problem in Australia and it was fixed by someone in Canada within a week. I love SMML and I reckon you all so great. John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From Ives100@aol.com Subject Re Nautilus Wood deck I was sent a review copy of the Nautilus deck for the SubCommittee Report. The deck is a laser cut wood deck with all free flood slots opened up. It includes the main deck and the conning tower deck. Crisp main deck slots as well as half-cut panel lines make for an excellent looking deck. The conning tower deck represents the many square holes in that deck as half-cut holes; they do not go all the way through. Resin pieces include the hatches, bollards, forward periscope shear, and stern light. The deck has more "depth" than the brass versions, and appears to be easy to install. Nautilus includes detailed instructions and suggestions for installing the deck. The wood deck extends from bow to stern, however the instructions recommend that the extreme bow and stern sections, which were metal, remain as the plastic parts of the kit, which can better represent the metal. The wood can be painted black, as at the beginning of a patrol, or grey, weathered wood (with wood areas showing through) for that post hard patrol look Both the Brassworks and Nautilus kits basically replicate the Revell Type VII-C deck. This in and of itself is not too bad, except that the Revell deck has a number of inaccuracies. Here are just two examples. On the main deck, the slot pattern around the deck gun is missing a number of the characteristic diagonal filled in areas that represent the support structure beneath the deck. The conning tower deck reproduces an even more obvious mistake. The UZO is located to the left of the centerline of the boat – it should be right on the centerline. Both the brass and wood decks are improvements on the kit deck, and save a lot of work if you want to have open deck slots. Tom Dougherty ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at http//smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at http//apma.org.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume